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Do you change the order of your lifts?

Posted on 5/15/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 9:37 pm
I can't fit it all into the thread title but let me give an example.

The program I'm trying to build is essentially a simple push/pull split

On push days I am doing chest, shoulders and triceps with the main 2 lifts being bench and overhead press

I do bench first and overhead press after. I feel like I could push more weight with the overhead press if I did that first instead. But at the end of the day does it matter? If I hit this routine twice a week should I flip flop the order or am I over thinking this?
Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:07 pm to
I swapped and did OP once before doing bench, and my bench was terrible. Totally crapped out with the weight I knew I could handle. I now do bench/squat on same day and dead/op on alt day.

I know that is not following your push/pull split workout, but that’s all I’ve got. Maybe test out and see, but be prepared for a subpar bench performance. Hopefully, it won’t affect you.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:13 pm to
I'm not that concerned about the weight that I'm pushing. I just wonder if I'm selling myself short on muscle growth.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:35 pm to
I've always heard to put the lifts you value most first. If you don't care about weight and only aesthetics then decide if you want to prioritize chest or shoulder development and put that one first
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 10:36 pm
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 9:44 am to
Obviously you’ll be able to push more weight if you did OHP first. You’re fatigued after doing bench and have less energy for OHP. Really kind of depends on what you’re trying to accomplish. Does it really matter what your OHP numbers are?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 9:46 am to
quote:

'm not that concerned about the weight that I'm pushing. I just wonder if I'm selling myself short on muscle growth.



If you’re not worried about the weight, then you don’t need to change anything. If you’re trying to add muscle, that has more to do with what you’re eating.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 10:46 am to
quote:

I do bench first and overhead press after. I feel like I could push more weight with the overhead press if I did that first instead.


You could rotate heavy and medium compound lifts with each one every other push day. Just put your heavy lift first.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:24 pm to
If you are not prioritizing one muscle just do bench then press one day, opposite fbs next.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 8:50 pm to
That seems simple enough

I need to prioritize my squat routine above all else
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 2:07 am to
Squats first, always.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:36 am to
I saw a recommendation once (I think it was on Jay Ferruggia's podcast) to do accessory first, then primary.

Concept was focused on preventing injury as you continue to lift past 35ish.

I really like it, you lift a little less in your primary, but everything feels so much better thanks to how deep into your session you lift.
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:19 am to
Is this much different than properly warming up prior to your primary lift? Genuinely curious - if this is effective I may try it out.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:24 am to
I typically do a different order of lifts each week, or at least I try to. I don't do a push/pull workout, more of a bro split, but on chest day, if I did flat bench first last week, this week I'll do incline first. On back, if I started out with some type of rows last week, this week I start with some type of pull down or pull up. That type of shite.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9227 posts
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Is this much different than properly warming up prior to your primary lift?


Depends on your warmup, but me yes it's different. If I squatted first, my session would be:
-5min Assault Bike gradually more intense
-General lower body warmup 5min
-General upper body warmup 5min
-Ramp up to weight

The "squat last" method would be the same as above, but I'd hit accessories like bulg split squats, GHR's, etc before squat....so I'd have an additional 20min or so before squatting.
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