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re: Bodybuilder breaks his neck and dies squatting
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:29 am to WaydownSouth
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:29 am to WaydownSouth
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Its not bullshite. You think top level bodybuilders are wasting time on deadlifts? Much better movements to isolate muscles.
how many here are top level BBers?
it is bullshite because the squat pattern and hip hinge pattern are basic movement patterns.
lots of mistakes the guy made, but he was an influencer and was trying for a 1 rep max.
but that doesnt change the fact, 99% of people on this board would have improved quality of life if they performed proper squats and deadlifts.
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:44 am to el duderino III
Spotting someone at a max weight is near impossible. Have not seen the video yet so I don’t know if a rack was involved. Without the help of a rack to catch the weight finally, you are asking alot of one man.
It’s madness in my opinion to squat without a rack with much more than warmup weight. I blame CrossFit.
It’s madness in my opinion to squat without a rack with much more than warmup weight. I blame CrossFit.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:45 am to hombreman9
quote:this 100%. cage or safety pins, regardless of weight when i'm squatting.
How hard is it to use a cage, especially on a heavy lift
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:50 am to Proximo
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You have no idea what you’re talking about and probably weigh either 160 skinny or 260 fat.
I guarantee I’m in better shape than you.
Yes my original statement is correct. I personally see no point to Squat or Deadlift unless one is trying to do competitive powerlifting. The injury risk to reward ratio isn’t there for me. You don’t need those movements for bodybuilding
Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:54 am to busbeepbeep
Watched the video.
Has cage. Walks outside of cage. Is killed with a poor spot in front of a cage that would save his life.
450 pound squat and a guy who weighed? 175?
You need the cage or enough spotters to physically take the weight off of you. Which is a big ask.
Has cage. Walks outside of cage. Is killed with a poor spot in front of a cage that would save his life.
450 pound squat and a guy who weighed? 175?
You need the cage or enough spotters to physically take the weight off of you. Which is a big ask.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:00 am to WaydownSouth
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Yes my original statement is correct. I personally see no point to Squat or Deadlift unless one is trying to do competitive powerlifting. The injury risk to reward ratio isn’t there for me. You don’t need those movements for bodybuilding
99% of people here are not bodybuilders
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The injury risk to reward ratio isn’t there for me
almost zero if done correctly.
sorry you dont know how to squat and hinge properly.
and the reason to do them....so you arent a pussy. not sayign you have to do them all the time, but they are literaly 2 of the basic movement patterns.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:02 am to WaydownSouth
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Yes my original statement is correct. I personally see no point to Squat or Deadlift unless one is trying to do competitive powerlifting
Squats and deadlifts are a compound movement workout that hit almost every muscle group. They are great to do if done correctly and with a weight comfortable with.
When going heavy yeah there is a huge risk of injury. That doesn't make them a bad lift.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:12 am to TheRouxGuru
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Unless one is a competitive powerlifter, no point to deadlift and squat. Especially with weights approaching your 1 RM. In the rare case, I incorporate squats I usually do working sets of 15-20 reps with light weight
Imagine thinking that your way is the only right way to do things
Especially when it runs counter to basically every expert in the field …
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:12 am to el duderino III
Given that every gym has either a cage or a squat rack there is no excuse for this to happen. But you see a lot of stupid shite in the gym. I’ve watched guys take on heavy weight and then back totally outside of the squat rack or outside of the cage before starting so they had nothing to catch the bar if they failed.
The worst was a lady that got down under a smith machine on her back and was pushing the bar up with her feet like some half assed leg press. There was no way she could’ve hooked the bar if it slipped off and it was centered around her upper chest. It made me so uncomfortable watching I told one of the employees they needed to stop her before she killed herself.
The worst was a lady that got down under a smith machine on her back and was pushing the bar up with her feet like some half assed leg press. There was no way she could’ve hooked the bar if it slipped off and it was centered around her upper chest. It made me so uncomfortable watching I told one of the employees they needed to stop her before she killed herself.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:17 am to el duderino III
Well according to the gym bro code he was likely squatting less than 100kg.
Sad, but when God calls your number and it's your time to go, you're not getting out of it.
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"If I die lifting, add more weight, THEN call 911."
Sad, but when God calls your number and it's your time to go, you're not getting out of it.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:20 am to WaydownSouth
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Unless one is a competitive powerlifter, no point to deadlift and squat. Especially with weights approaching your 1 RM.
In the rare case, I incorporate squats I usually do working sets of 15-20 reps with light weight
Does your boyfriend lift too?
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:27 am to WaydownSouth
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Unless one is a competitive powerlifter, no point to deadlift and squat.
Mark Rippetoe wants to meet you at Sonic.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:27 am to BigWillyMetry
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He died doing what he loved
Being held by other dudes from behind.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:37 am to WaydownSouth
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Yes my original statement is correct. I personally see no point to Squat or Deadlift unless one is trying to do competitive powerlifting. The injury risk to reward ratio isn’t there for me. You don’t need those movements for bodybuilding
"isn't there for me". So your statement is correct for you.
Squats are an amazing workout. I think people should put form before weight, but even lighter weight is more beneficial compared to the leg press machine/rack.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:40 am to Proximo
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Correct. There shouldn’t even be a spotter here—drop the weight off your back to the rear and step forward.
Alternatively, squat in a rack and just squat all the way down to the safety arms
I mean, sure … if he kept the weight in his heels but it’s quite obvious he got forward in his squat, weight into the toes, and it rolled him.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:50 am to lsu777
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and the reason to do them....so you arent a pussy. not sayign you have to do them all the time, but they are literaly 2 of the basic movement patterns.
Also the two lifts most likely to get one injured.
Find me a legitimate need of the average person needing to squat or deadlift? I’ll wait. You can build strength through other movements
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:52 am to WaydownSouth
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Unless one is a competitive powerlifter, no point to deadlift and squat. Especially with weights approaching your 1 RM.
In the rare case, I incorporate squats I usually do working sets of 15-20 reps with light weight
this is total nonsense.
The studies on muscle hypertrophy don’t support your thesis for number of reps, and with good form and proper precautions there is no reason at all to avoid those movements.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:54 am to WaydownSouth
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Find me a legitimate need of the average person needing to squat or deadlift? I’ll wait. You can build strength through other movements
Is there a “need” for the average person to do benchpress or overhead press or any other compound movement? People do compound lifts because they are effective and efficient and provide easily accessible benchmarks because of just how many other people do them as well.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:03 am to el duderino III
It is sad, but He is also responsible for picking the right spotters lifting weights of that magnitude.
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:13 am to el duderino III
damn son I was at Paula Manship on Friday...coulda been me!
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