re: Are you a "tallow truther"?

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Plenty of options for dressings/sauces without seed oils.

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Here are the mayo options at my local Whole Foods
- 365 by Whole Foods (Expeller pressed Canola oil- apparently this is 'good')
- Truff Mayo (Mid Oleic sunflower oil)
- Sir Kensington's Mayo (Sunflower oil, but they do have an Avocado Oil option)
- Kewpie Mayo (Soybean Oil)
- Hellman's Organic (Soybean oil)
- Chosen Foods (Avocado oil)

Out of 6 options, 3 are using seed oils as the primary ingredient, 2 use sunflower oil, which is apparently a 'healthy seed oil' and 1 of those has an option. 1 choice made only from avocado oil

Ranch Dressing
- Toby's Family Foods (Expeller pressed, non GMO Canola Oil)
- Tessemae's Habanero Ranch (High Oleic Sunflower Oil)
- Ocean's Halo Wasabi Ranch (High Oleic Sunflower Oil)
- Hidden Valley Organic (Organic Soybean Oil)
- 365 by Whole Foods Organic (Organic Expellar Pressed Sunflower Seed Oil)
- Litehouse (Canola Oil)
- Primal Kitchen (Avocado Oil)
- Cindy's Kitchen (Organic Sunflower Oil)

3 seed, 4 sunflower, 1 avocado

There are other options out there, but my point still stands- you have to look pretty hard to find non-seed oil options.

I need to dig deeper on Sunflower Oil and the terms 'Expeller Pressed' and 'High/Mid Oleic' to really know whether they are 'healthy oils' or not, but if you're strictly talking seed oils, the options are pretty slim- and you better pray they taste decent.

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I don’t get all hung up on shite that is way way way down the list to care about. I can’t stand the seed oil is the devil people mainly cause they are fat fricks who refuse to acknowledge it’s their fricking diet that is the main problem. Same with the HFCS people

In the end, if you are serious about health…how much seed oils are you really using? I mean you shouldn’t be frying foods, you shouldn’t be drenching shite in sauces or dressings etc

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The problem is they put them in EVERYTHING.

I know plenty of people - myself included - that have had major improvements from cutting them out. All of these people (including me) are trim and fit. The improvements I'm talking about are: gut issues, sunburn sensitivity, sleep, libido and skin.

My main thing is that the very top consideration for everyone should be to eat whole foods as much as possible - and at the very least, not highly/ultra processed crap. 777, this should fit in perfectly with your body fat/weight viewpoint. AND...it's very hard to eat these in a form that isn't ultraprocessed - e.g. "canola" oil.

FYI sunflower oil has the highest amount of linoleic acid content of any seed oils. It is not healthy, unless it’s high oleic which reduces the amount of linoleic acid content.

It is also not a matter with canola oil whether it’s expeller pressed or not bc either way it’s unedible unless it’s highly processed thereafter.

These are all just marketing terms to make it “green washed.”

When I’m Dieting I don’t eat that kind of stuff. And when I do eat stuff that would have that kind of stuff in it, I don’t really give AF anyways lol

My point was kind what you said. If you care about your health you are eating Whole Foods anyways based around protein.

Your carbs sources are almost always going to be rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes then veggies and things like avocados

Your protein is gonna be meat and eggs based, supplemented with whey, cottage cheese and Greek yogurt.

Not really gonna be adding lots of fats unless it’s avocados as you get plenty from the meat


I’m not saying don’t worry about seed oils if you take in lots of them. But if you are being logical and really do care about health, that shite pretty much cut out anyways

And for those looking to lose body fat, if you control calories to stay in a deficit, hit 1-1.5g of protein per lbs of bodyweight….well then the rest don’t really matter, even for inflammation because you are going to be dropping fat so fast, atleast for 90% of people.


But yea in general avoid them, and tallow and stuff like that is better, better tasting too but I’m just not gonna act like it’s some huge problem for those that truly care.


The fatties eating fast food everyday…not gonna make a difference for them either way.

Use ebook and vinegar for the salad

But if you are eating sauce on wings, sauce for dipping then no offense you don’t care that much anyways but sure I guess it would help someone in your position

Tucker Goodrich takedown

You just make it sound like you saucing up everything

Like you are eating it everyday even multiple times a day

Wasn’t trying to be a dick

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If I’m eating fried food, don’t really give a second thought to seed oils.

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Seems weird, as that is when they are at their most pernicious.

I mean…I’m eating fried foods, don’t really have a leg to stand on when it comes to worrying about health


And again, don’t want yall to take this as I like seed oils, it’s just personally not a huge worry of mine as I have much bigger fish to fry, I don’t eat much fried foods and I don’t eat tons of sauces. I of course have some, and I would like them to be replaced but I think many people make way too big of a deal out of them

They are 100% not why we have a health problem in this country as they don’t make you fatter…and good god are we fat overall