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Posted on 9/1/22 at 6:50 pm to lsu777
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i do have to watch my 6 year old. he likes to wait until everyone is asleep and then turn it back on quitely lil fricker
Your kid? No way.
As for gaining weight - the protein shakes help a little bit, but real food is the best. I took away the protein shakes from my underweight kid and he started eating a lot more - and the results were better
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:40 pm to GreenRockTiger
My son is about to turn 12 in a month and half.
He doesn’t eat breakfast unless I get donuts on Friday morning.
Does anyone have this breakfast issue?
I don’t eat breakfast so I know where he gets it from.
He doesn’t eat breakfast unless I get donuts on Friday morning.
Does anyone have this breakfast issue?
I don’t eat breakfast so I know where he gets it from.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:13 pm to LSU9102
It’s not uncommon. Don’t stress over it.
I will give you dads one tip just because it’s easier to do with kids than it is adults. In your child’s training, help them do handstands. It’s easy to do, all you have to do is catch them if they fall. It builds incredible shoulder muscle and it really helps them gain confidence. Just make sure they push away from the ground.
I will give you dads one tip just because it’s easier to do with kids than it is adults. In your child’s training, help them do handstands. It’s easy to do, all you have to do is catch them if they fall. It builds incredible shoulder muscle and it really helps them gain confidence. Just make sure they push away from the ground.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:14 pm to LSU9102
My son doesn’t eat breakfast and it blows my mind bc for me it’s essential. I can’t start my day without it.
ETA: I found not making a big deal over it helps. I just make extra eggs and toast and just set the bowl near him. Eventually they start eating it
ETA: I found not making a big deal over it helps. I just make extra eggs and toast and just set the bowl near him. Eventually they start eating it
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:37 pm to Geert
Have him down a half gallon of whole milk per day.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:06 pm to LSU9102
Dude breakfast is an issue why most kids
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:27 am to Geert
When my son needed to put on weight for football, he would eat a pint of ice cream and 2 PB&J sandwiches before bed. And he put on weight pretty fast.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:23 am to REB BEER
I approach my sons weight the same as for an adult with a manageable caloric surplus. 2400ish a day at the moment seems to be ok and he tracks his protein at 1g per lb per day goal
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:56 am to lofty
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I approach my sons weight the same as for an adult with a manageable caloric surplus. 2400ish a day at the moment seems to be ok and he tracks his protein at 1g per lb per day goal
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:47 pm to lofty
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he tracks his protein at 1g per lb per day goal
Now that you say that, I remember his coach telling him to do the same thing.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:51 pm to REB BEER
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Now that you say that, I remember his coach telling him to do the same thing.
everyone should be doing that if they are lifting at all. if not lifting 0.82.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:23 pm to Geert
1g of protein per body weight per day along with regular weight lifting and cardio program; 3 meals a day of lean red meat, complex carb and veggie along with protein supplements as "supplements" (not meals).
However, if me, would not let my 13yo do this until in HS.
However, if me, would not let my 13yo do this until in HS.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:09 am to Turf Taint
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However, if me, would not let my 13yo do this until in HS.
why? 13 is usually tanner stage 4 and the perfect time to start a linear progression program. can you explain your thinking on this?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:22 am to lsu777
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can you explain your thinking on this?
Probably just old thinking (I don't say this to be insulting). I had a PT tell me that kids shouldn't lift until they are 16 because it will compress the growth plates. Isn't that pretty much universally accepted as false?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:10 am to bamaguy17
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Probably just old thinking (I don't say this to be insulting). I had a PT tell me that kids shouldn't lift until they are 16 because it will compress the growth plates. Isn't that pretty much universally accepted as false?
not only is it accepted as false, the opposite is actually true.
Now you should be a little concerned with loading the spine consistantly. Thats why its suggested that you start with squat progressions and hip hinge progressions
bodyweight squat--> landmine squat--> goblet squat--> front squat--> back squat and whyt he use of single leg exercises such as lunge and split squat variations should be used and if volume on the squat pattern is used....use the belt squat
Even the American Society of pediatrics says
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Children of all ages with proper supervision can benefit from resistance training, a form of strength building that should be incorporated into physical activity classes when students return to school?, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.
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Appropriate strength-training programs have no apparent adverse effect on linear growth, growth plates, or the cardiovascular system,1,10,11,28,29 although caution should be used for young athletes with preexisting hypertension, because they may require medical clearance to reduce the potential for additional elevation of blood pressure with strength training if they exhibit poorly controlled blood pressure. Youth who have received chemotherapy with anthracyclines may be at increased risk for cardiac problems because of the cardiotoxic effects of the medications, and resistance training in this population should be approached with caution.30 Specific anthracyclines that have been associated with acute congestive heart failure include doxorubicin, daunomycin/daunorubicin, idarubicin, and possibly mitoxantrone. Youth with other forms of cardiomyopathy (particularly hypertrophic cardiomyopathy), who are at risk for worsening ventricular hypertrophy and restrictive cardiomyopathy or hemodynamic decompensation secondary to an acute increase in pulmonary hypertension, should be counseled against weight training. Individuals with moderate to severe pulmonary hypertension also should refrain from strenuous weight training, because they are at risk for acute decompensation with a sudden change in hemodynamics.31 Young people with Marfan syndrome with a dilated aortic root also are counseled against participation in strength-training programs. Young athletes with seizure disorders should be withheld from strength-training programs until clearance is obtained from a physician. Overweight children may appear to be strong because of their size but often are unconditioned with poor strength and would require the same strict supervision and guidance as is necessary with any resistance program.
here are some resources on this
5 part serious done by the doctors at barbell medicine that goes over everything you could want to know, the different tanner stages etc
LINK
Study
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:14 am to bamaguy17
alos people are dumb...the forces you get hit with jumping from a 20" box are way way greater than those seen in weightlifting. Forces on a football field and soccer field are exponentially greater than those seen in weightlifting.
its funn too cause people will allow their 140lbs 8th grader to do pushups(force is roughly 65% of BW so ~91lbs) but wont allow their kid to do bench press with a 45 lbs bar
LINK
its funn too cause people will allow their 140lbs 8th grader to do pushups(force is roughly 65% of BW so ~91lbs) but wont allow their kid to do bench press with a 45 lbs bar
LINK
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:51 am to lsu777
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if i was going to give anyone advice on where to start with kids its
Looking towards the offseason for my 12 year old, probably in another month. A lot has changed for him. Seems like overnight, his voice has changed and he has underarm hair
Would your recommendation change? He's been on a linear program 2x a week during the season. You recommended DB strength but I don't have the set up for that. I was thinking the fast portion of strong and fast mixed with another program (carries and throws added). Any thoughts on the strength portion of his program? Unless you think he could handle the olympic lifts of Strong and Fast AF.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:30 am to bamaguy17
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Looking towards the offseason for my 12 year old, probably in another month. A lot has changed for him. Seems like overnight, his voice has changed and he has underarm hair
Would your recommendation change? He's been on a linear program 2x a week during the season. You recommended DB strength but I don't have the set up for that. I was thinking the fast portion of strong and fast mixed with another program (carries and throws added). Any thoughts on the strength portion of his program? Unless you think he could handle the olympic lifts of Strong and Fast AF.
he could and it wouldnt be a problem, but lots of teaching on your end. Are you able to teach that?
what equipment do you have?
as far as linear, if he has the squat form down, like really down and can handle the bar, that is the best way. most 12 years cant though and thats why i said DB strength. I am starting offseason with my 11 year old 6th grader starting monday and using kind of a mix of db strength and linear.
lmk what equipment you have and ill put together a simple program or you could just have him run grasshopper with some sprints/jumps/throws 2-3x per week on off days. nothing major, about (4) 10 yard sprints, (4) 20 yard sprints from lying position and then (2) 40 yard dashes. make sure each rep is done after full rest and recovery, this is speed not conditioning.
for throws, simple medicine ball or even a basketball thrown for distance. can be any type of throw, just be consistent and track and try to set PRs.
for jumps- jump rope/pogo jumps for ankle strength, depth drops, box jumps, vertical jumps, broad jumps, skater jumps, 1 leg versions etc etc
for warmup on lifitng days do 10 jumps or 10 throws and there you have a complete program if formed with grasshopper.
or do grasshopper and the drills from strong and fast and that away when he is done with grasshopper he is ready to jump right into strong and fast af and all you have to teach is olympic lifts.
many ways you can go about this. could do the 531 begginner prep school linear program.
in the end, its most important that whatever they do, you just stay consistent 3-4 days per week and you get atleast 2 days of sprinting in.
westside 4 skinny bastards is another great resource, as is challenger strength social media, zach evan-esh, power athlete(bedrock is best LP for athletes), joe defranco, bill miller, dr josh heenan etc.
focus on the basics and getting strong in those. focus on full true speed work, full range of motion on the lifts and getting strong relative to bodyweight. Dont be afraid to let him bro it out either if that is what he enjoys. 10 min of bicep and tricep work never hurt anyone. Also focus on good nutrition habits.
for nutrition....fix some eggs and bacon or sausage or beef etc, maybe make it into a wrap or eat some toast with it. if he wants just cereal then drink a protein shake. add milk to the meal, preferable fairlife.
for lunch, fix his lunch. ground beef with rice, rotisserie chicken and rice etc etc. or even sandwiches or wraps with lots of meat and cheese. Leftovers works good here too. if you want, can even send him with a rtd protein shake to drink with it.
have him eat right after school when he gets home. can be something simple as leftovers, a protein shake, a sandwich, rotisserie chicken, premade hamburger patties etc plus a glass of milk
then have him eat dinner with family making sure he gets plenty of protein. drink milk with dinner.
have him drink a big glass of milk before bed.
notice a theme.....4-5 meals a day that are protein focused plus a glass of milk.
cant have him skipping breakfast and then eating a poptart and a coke for lunch and expect him to get anything out of the training.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:06 am to lsu777
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he could and it wouldnt be a problem, but lots of teaching on your end. Are you able to teach that?
I could probably teach it but I'm not an expert.
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what equipment do you have?
I've got just about everything you would ever need. I just can't do the DB program because my dumbbells are cumbersome to add weight to and that is torture when it comes to supersetting.
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as far as linear, if he has the squat form down, like really down and can handle the bar, that is the best way
He's a great squatter (oh to be young and flexible again). I don't let him handle much weight, same with deadlift (we did switch to trap bar following your recommendation). I'm a stickler for perfect form.
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you could just have him run grasshopper with some sprints/jumps/throws 2-3x per week on off days. nothing major, about (4) 10 yard sprints, (4) 20 yard sprints from lying position and then (2) 40 yard dashes. make sure each rep is done after full rest and recovery, this is speed not conditioning.
This will probably be the way I go. He had started grasshopper a few months ago but football and school wouldn't allow more than 2 days a week, so we switched. Thanks for the help!
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