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re: Why do people just assume Tiger is the Goat?

Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:27 pm to
Jack: 18 majors and 19 seconds. Of the Forty majors played in the 1970s he finished in the top 10 in 35 of them ( heard this today on PGA Tour radio and have not confirmed). 73 top 10s

Tiger : 15 majors and 6 second places. 40 top 10s.

The way I always think about it is that Jack has the greatest record of all time, Tiger was the most dominant for an extended period of time that has ever been.

Not sure which one of those that makes the GOAT. Do you prioritize the record over decades, or the level of dominance over like one decade? Either way, no one else is in the same category as those two.





Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:34 pm to
You take prime Jack and prime Tiger and I’m taking Tiger
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37683 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:39 pm to
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You sure about that?


Of course not. But we KNOW Woods is.

Besides, nothing rustles the jimmies of the Woods crowd like mentioning a flaw.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
37826 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:56 pm to
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You take prime Jack and prime Tiger and I’m taking Tiger


And same equipment? Let Tiger play Jack’s equipment
Posted by BRsundog
BR
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:15 pm to
Pretty sure there was a shite ton of coverage on the jfk thing.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
2000 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:15 pm to
Not like today.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:55 pm to
This is like the Earnhardt, Sr./David Pearson discussion. 1A and 1B.

Personally, I view Eldrick as tGOAT but you will get no argument from me saying it's Jack.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:44 pm to
I could agree with you if you could use the word DOMINANT
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:46 pm to
I don’t know if he was or he wasn’t, but in those days, sportswriters were more likely to cover that shite up for their drinking buddies instead of being the first to break a scandal like in the Tiger era.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:10 pm to
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I firmly believe this perception is a product of the lack of depth of the field. That resulted in the same guys near the top all the time.


I hold the same belief - a few top guys in an era when being a fringe pro meant a totally different lifestyle, income bracket, and practice routine vs. the modern era when everyone in the field is pulling 7 figures a year and wholly devoted to golf.

Would love to hear the other argument from the two grandpas that downvoted you and that will probably also downvote me
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:28 pm to
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Let Tiger play Jack’s equipment


Jack played the same 5 wood since birth. Just re shafted it.

Jack also never lost a ball.

Rumor has it, he also played 14 1 irons.

He also made that same putt that JJ made today in 1905. Except it was for eagle.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:33 pm to
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Let Tiger play Jack’s equipment


Tiger would have been even more dominant if they had still been playing with equipment from Jack’s era.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3212 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Anybody that watched Tiger in his prime knows that the only reason he didn’t eclipse Jack is due to his body breaking down.



Tiger had more wins in a deeper field by 2012. Jack's major record is insane obviously but I have no doubt a healthy tiger wouldve eclipsed 100 wins.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:33 am to
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Jack: 18 majors and 19 seconds. Of the Forty majors played in the 1970s he finished in the top 10 in 35 of them ( heard this today on PGA Tour radio and have not confirmed). 73 top 10s Tiger : 15 majors and 6 second places. 40 top 10s.


Both seemed to make shots when the needed them.

Both are on the Mount Rushmore of golf.

Who else would round out their foursome?

Ben Hogan and Bobby Jones would be my additional 2.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
5178 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:50 am to
Gonna save myself some typing and just link you to a decent article on the subject

Tiger is the GOAT
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56584 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:01 am to
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Jack is the GOAT


There is no valid arguments otherwise. All arguments that favor Tiger over Jack are hypothetical and what could have or would have happened but didn't.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52739 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:22 am to
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against arguably better competition
lol look I'm not going to get into the GOAT debate but this is a retarded statement.
Posted by cajungoalie
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
683 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 12:51 pm to
If you don't think Jack isn't the GOAT, which he is, just by major wins alone. But or shits and giggles google Major runner-ups;

Jack has 19
Tiger has 7

and Jack was playing with shite gear, The game was changed for Tiger's generation with the 420cc driver.

and there's no doubt Jack had better competion.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:04 pm to
How does gear have anything to do with it? It’s not like Jack was playing with older gear and his pears were playing with modern day drivers?

The argument about better competition is comical. There was zero depth back when Jack was playing and just as many HOF players when Tiger was playing. The difference is the depth of the fields and the golfers when Tiger came to the tour. It is absolutely asinine to say Jack had better competition.

I get it, majors only matters to people now. The truth is Tiger has more wins than Jack. We can talk about Tiger being injured for the last half of his prime as the reason he didn’t break jacks record but i can’t even imagine what he would have done to all of the records if he was able to stay healthy and not ruin his back and knee with training with the Seals.

With that being said, nobody has ever played the game as good as Tiger in the 2000 run. That was a walking golfing God. Jack wouldn’t even come close to taking that player down.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7536 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:04 pm to
They are both worthy of the title because we have no idea how Jack or Tiger would have played/dominated with the clubs that both played with. Tiger played his best with a ball different than any other player, especially in 2000. Fact
Jack played with the worst ball of any of his competitors and still beat them.
The comparison is impossible and disingenuous at best.
In my mind, Jack is the greatest.
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