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Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:23 pm to llfshoals
Scottie and Henley are our top duo. They have complimentary game and have a good track record.
If Morikawa makes the team im not sure if he plays much. He doesnt have a long driver or a hot putter. Maybe he can get it going, bc i think he is gonna be on the team.
Ben Griffin is a guy who might be in the first day pairings. I think he is on the team and he hits it better than most people realize.
If Morikawa makes the team im not sure if he plays much. He doesnt have a long driver or a hot putter. Maybe he can get it going, bc i think he is gonna be on the team.
Ben Griffin is a guy who might be in the first day pairings. I think he is on the team and he hits it better than most people realize.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:32 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:Seriously? The first 2 days are alternate shot.
If Morikawa makes the team im not sure if he plays much. He doesnt have a long driver or a hot putter. Maybe he can get it going, bc i think he is gonna be on the team.
What does Morikawa excel at? Putting the ball in the fairway off the tee. Pair with Scheffler or Spaun who both occasionally struggle to hit the fairway. He avgs near 300, so it’s not like he’s short.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:32 am to llfshoals
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Pair with Scheffler or Spaun who both occasionally struggle to hit the fairway.
Scottie Scheffler was 32nd in Fairway Pct and 1st in SG: off the tee this year…
I also would probably keep Morikawa away from Scheffler because you want a good putter taking advantage of Scottie’s iron play.
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Seriously? The first 2 days are alternate shot.
I think you may have just misspoken here, but we have both alternate shot and best ball on the first two days. I don’t see any reason to mess with Henley and Scheffler.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:31 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Bryson would match up well with someone that has a nice short game. He bombs it off the tee, often straight, but it can leave him short sided at times on short par 4's and long par 5's. His short game is generally pretty solid, but in an alt shot scenario, his partner also needs to be a plus short game player.
There are actually plenty of players near the top of the scrambling inside of 30 yards category that are in contention to get picked.
Young (3rd in PGA in this stat), Burns, Spaun, English, Thomas, Cantlay, Henley, Gotterup all in top 40.
I think Bryson would fit well with quite a few players.
There are actually plenty of players near the top of the scrambling inside of 30 yards category that are in contention to get picked.
Young (3rd in PGA in this stat), Burns, Spaun, English, Thomas, Cantlay, Henley, Gotterup all in top 40.
I think Bryson would fit well with quite a few players.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:38 am to Dawgsontop34
quote:And occasionally struggle to put it in the fairway. Great at still getting it on the green because his distance control is so good. That’s why I’d pair him with the best available at getting it in the short grass. Same thing if you put him with JJ. Henley would be a great fit with either.
Scottie Scheffler was 32nd in Fairway Pct and 1st in SG: off the tee this year…
quote:A bit, I get a little annoyed that aspect gets constantly overlooked and rushed posting it
I think you may have just misspoken here, but we have both alternate shot and best ball on the first two days.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:54 am to 3PieceSpicy
I don’t know how they work personality wise but Bryson and Henley feels like a good duo.
One underrated tidbit I saw was Cam Young and Bryson are both testing the same Titleist prototype ball. Considering how much importance Bryson places on the golf ball that seems like a potential pairing in alternate shot.
One underrated tidbit I saw was Cam Young and Bryson are both testing the same Titleist prototype ball. Considering how much importance Bryson places on the golf ball that seems like a potential pairing in alternate shot.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:57 am to Dawgsontop34
quote:Man to me it’s just so random though
I also would probably keep Morikawa away from Scheffler because you want a good putter taking advantage of Scottie’s iron play.
This is literally Scottie and burns. They should be the best possible golf pair
Burns is a lights out putter to go with Scottie. They also are best friends. Yet they are 0-3-1 together
I think we and nobody else simply wants to admit just how fluky team golf is
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:05 am to lsupride87
You could make the argument every sport on earth is fluky. Guys get hot and cold all the time.
The Ryder cup format hasn’t changed that I’m aware of. The US knows what the game is going in, we just don’t prepare particularly well.
The Ryder cup format hasn’t changed that I’m aware of. The US knows what the game is going in, we just don’t prepare particularly well.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:14 am to Swagga
quote:But this is fluky because it’s not “real golf”. It’s a format at best these guys play once a year or once every two years…
You could make the argument every sport on earth is fluky. Guys get hot and cold all the time.
So you can do all the best analytics and perfect matchups and it still fricks up or vice versa
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:58 am to llfshoals
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Seriously? The first 2 days are alternate shot.
What does Morikawa excel at? Putting the ball in the fairway off the tee. Pair with Scheffler or Spaun who both occasionally struggle to hit the fairway. He avgs near 300, so it’s not like he’s short.
Morikawa is 140th on tour in driving distance, and 141st in putting.
He doesnt need to be playing in any alternate shot pairing because of those two stats.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:08 am to lsupride87
It is random, but I think the best thing you can do is at least try and go by the data. As far as the 6 go, I do think it sorted itself out this weekend:
Griffin
Young
Burns
JT
Cantlay
Either Morikawa or Keegan picks himself. I’d like for him to pick Morikawa and think that is the easiest route.
Griffin
Young
Burns
JT
Cantlay
Either Morikawa or Keegan picks himself. I’d like for him to pick Morikawa and think that is the easiest route.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:13 am to Dawgsontop34
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I don’t see any reason to mess with Henley and Scheffler.
I think the reasoning would be that Henley is arguably one of the three best players on the team and you need him to lead another pairing. I think you could probably guarantee a win with a Scottie/Henley pairing but I think they need to spread the talent out.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:23 am to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:Thats funny.
Morikawa is 140th on tour in driving distance, and 141st in putting. He doesnt need to be playing in any alternate shot pairing because of those two stats.
141st in driving distance - 297 yards. Top 50 is 307
So it’s not like he’s short. And you clearly haven’t looked at his Ryder Cup record. He’s 4-2 in foursomes and 4 ball. The things you don’t want he has one of the best records on the US team doing.
I swear some of you have never watched golf before.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:32 am to llfshoals
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So it’s not like he’s short. And you clearly haven’t looked at his Ryder Cup record. He’s 4-2 in foursomes and 4 ball. The things you don’t want he has one of the best records on the US team doing.
I swear some of you have never watched golf before.
I hope your turn out to be right about Morikawa, but I think you put too much reliance on previous Ryder Cup records. Can it be a factor in decisions? Sure. However, they should be more concerned with current form and course fit.
Previous Ryder Cup data can just have a ton of noise in it. For example, he's 4-2 in team matches. Well, 3 of those wins were when he was paired with DJ at Whistling Straits where DJ was by far the best player there. How much of the record is on Colin and how much is on DJ? It's hard to tell.
You can also manipulate the narrative. He's 1-2 when not paired with DJ.
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I swear some of you have never watched golf before.
This just seems like a ridiculous thing to say when someone uses other factors to make a decision on an event that happens every 2 years and can be a bit of crapshoot.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:59 am to llfshoals
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He’s 4-2 in foursomes and 4 ball. The things you don’t want he has one of the best records on the US team doing. I swear some of you have never watched golf before
Why are you ignoring singles here?
A singles point is just as, if not more important than a fourball or foursomes point.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 12:03 pm to llfshoals
quote:
swear some of you have never watched golf before.
No we are just watching you be a Morikawa fan boy. You want him paired with Scottie. You want him playing alternate shot. He is not even a shoe-in to be on the team.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:23 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:Not ignoring, just know they are less important.
Why are you ignoring singles here?
quote:28 matches, 12 are singles. Which means 16 points are available for team matches.
A singles point is just as, if not more important than a fourball or foursomes point.
What are the European players better at? Team matches.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:27 pm to llfshoals
When you play a fourball or foursomes match, you are half your team which means your value for the point is less than your value for a singles match.
I want Morikawa on my team (I’m leaving Keegan off). But he’s very clearly a different player right now than he was in 2021. Hopefully he gets back to his normal standard.
I want Morikawa on my team (I’m leaving Keegan off). But he’s very clearly a different player right now than he was in 2021. Hopefully he gets back to his normal standard.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:30 pm to Dawgsontop34
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