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USGA and R&A declare "long distances must stop"
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:15 am
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quote:Bout time...it's becoming ridiculous.
Longer distances, longer courses, playing from longer tees and longer times to play are taking golf in the wrong direction and are not necessary to make golf challenging, enjoyable or sustainable in the future.
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:16 am to RD Dawg
Go back to wooden shafts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:18 am to RD Dawg
why just now realize this?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:18 am to KosmoCramer
It's a long hit and a pitch.
Cannot go on like this.
Cannot go on like this.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:22 am to RD Dawg
The equipment is simply too good.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:27 am to High C
Make shot shaping and placement more important. It’s what makes 3/4 majors so great to watch.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:30 am to High C
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The equipment is simply too good.
its the ball.
They need a PGA Tour ball like Nicklaus said.
Every player plays the exact same ball like every other sport.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:01 am to CBandits82
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its the ball. They need a PGA Tour ball like Nicklaus said. Every player plays the exact same ball like every other sport.
Worked for the IROC series in racing. Everyone has the same car, so it's about the skill of the driver.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:09 am to tke_swamprat
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Make shot shaping and placement more important. It’s what makes 3/4 majors so great to watch.
I agree in theory but the Masters is still way too easy, relatively speaking.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:14 am to CBandits82
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its the ball.
They need a PGA Tour ball like Nicklaus said.
Every player plays the exact same ball like every other sport.
Incredible idea, but the sponsors spending hundreds of millions on the sport will tell that rule to frick off.
ETA:
Maybe if they did this just for majors it could work? And leave it up to the other tournaments to enforce the "tour ball rule" or not.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:16 am to RD Dawg
Thing is, if you make holes narrower and require tight landing spots with hard angles, the players won't be able to hit 375 yard drives and pitch it up.
Just design courses to require them to hit 2-3 irons off the tee, and 7 irons into the green.
It can be done.
Also love the standard ball idea. That makes so much sense.
Just design courses to require them to hit 2-3 irons off the tee, and 7 irons into the green.
It can be done.
Also love the standard ball idea. That makes so much sense.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:18 am to TheCaterpillar
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Also love the standard ball idea. That makes so much sense.
I want standard clubs, too. They can be fit to the golfer, but the same otherwise.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:20 am to High C
Something tells me that there is too much money involved for any of these rule changes to ever happen, which is a shame because they make a lot of sense
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:24 am to High C
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I want standard clubs, too. They can be fit to the golfer, but the same otherwise.
Ehh I don't like this.
If they put firmer limits on size, weight, metal thickness, etc., most of the brands will basically reach a point they can't improve more.
But I don't like the idea of making players play clubs they hate looking down at. Or clubs that are too heavy or too light for their taste.
Put a stricter governor on performance, but allow customization between those guardrails.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:28 am to TheCaterpillar
I think a PGA Tour ball is the way to go. Everyone gets issued standard ball that reduces average drives to 275 and big hitters to 290.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:10 pm to RD Dawg
make the ball bigger
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:22 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Thing is, if you make holes narrower and require tight landing spots with hard angles, the players won't be able to hit 375 yard drives and pitch it up.
Just design courses to require them to hit 2-3 irons off the tee, and 7 irons into the green.
It can be done.
Also love the standard ball idea. That makes so much sense.
the issue is land for this. It is really expensive to build and maintain longer courses, and what you are suggesting makes sense, but it also requires most of the tour stops to have to go to new, currently non-existing courses and is further taking the game away from the classic courses. You have Harbor Town and Colonial that are ready made, but you have a ton of courses that you cant do that with currently, and I would say that there arent courses you can achieve this with for 80% of tour stops.
You hit on angles, and that is key. Narrower doesnt help because these guys have such a wide dispersion anyways it still favors the longer hitters, unless there are actual penalties for being offline in the rough, which the tour refuses to do.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:24 pm to TheCaterpillar
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If they put firmer limits on size, weight, metal thickness, etc., most of the brands will basically reach a point they can't improve more.
But I don't like the idea of making players play clubs they hate looking down at. Or clubs that are too heavy or too light for their taste.
Put a stricter governor on performance, but allow customization between those guardrails.
I agree with this for sure. they need to put governors on performance, and the key is they actually need to test for them.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:46 pm to upstate
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the issue is land for this. It is really expensive to build and maintain longer courses
Absolutely and I don't know how anyone designs or even wants to deal with the expense of a new course or redesigning an existing one... not to mention the cost of maintenance.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:47 pm to upstate
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You hit on angles, and that is key. Narrower doesnt help because these guys have such a wide dispersion anyways it still favors the longer hitters, unless there are actual penalties for being offline in the rough, which the tour refuses to do.
I agree. The most cost-effective solution at least is to move tee boxes to adjust angles, grow out rough, and put hazards in landing areas for big hitters.
All of the top courses could do this in one season to some extent.
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