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PGA Tour vs LIV Ryder Cup

Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:22 am
Posted by ChrisBurky
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:22 am
Would you watch then??
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Puddenn32
In da LP
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 7:33 am to
If this were a thing...... I'd have to be honest and say I'm pulling for Team LIV. Lots of solid golfers on this side and most of them are way funnier to watch.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:03 am to
Phil's probably not wrong, would be must see TV.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:23 am to
PGA would probably win, but I think it'd be close. Where PGA would dominate is if you did a 13-24 on the pga/liv rosters
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4800 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 8:28 am to


Probably swap out a couple of LIV guys for Gooch and/or Ancer
Posted by WhoDat9090
Member since Oct 2019
1448 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:51 am to
Wyndham Clark over Tom Kim
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3192 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 2:54 pm to
From that list
Phil
JT
Speith
Rory
Rahm
Hoviland
Fitzpatrick
Koepka
Homa
Hatton
Scheffler

(ETA: if those were actual pairings)
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:25 pm to
Would definitely be entertaining. I feel like the PGA would be favorites around -175 to -200. Somewhere in that range.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 3:46 pm to
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From that list
Phil
JT
Speith
Rory
Rahm
Hoviland
Fitzpatrick
Koepka
Homa
Hatton
Scheffler


Datagolf is probably the most accurate and comprehensive. Using current DG rankings:
Scheffler (1) vs. Rahm (5)
McIlroy (2) vs. Hatton (9)
Schauffele (3) vs. Niemann (20)
Hovland (4) vs. DeChambeau (32)
Morikawa (6) vs. Burmeister (40)
Cantlay (4) vs. C. Smith (43)
Homa (8) vs. Koepka (42)
Fleetwood (10) vs. Johnson (43)
Aberg (11) vs. Gooch (52)
Poston (12) vs. Oosthuizen (54)
Thomas (13) vs. Reed (58)
Henley (14) vs. Pereira (76)

There are some others right outside that top 12 on the Tour like Spieth (17), Fitzpatrick (18), Sungjae (19), Tom Kim (21), and Finau (24) that would probably get a look if this were a true Ryder Cup-style format with captains' picks. This wouldn't really be remotely close at current form; the Tour is just far deeper, and the churn and competition at the top is just enormously advantageous for the competitive edge. If any of LIV's top guys aren't playing well (which is inevitable to some degree, and is obvious with some of them right now), then they are up shite creek without a paddle whereas the Tour can go to the next 12 and then the next 12 and so on and still have elite options.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 4:32 pm to
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Datagolf is probably the most accurate and comprehensive.


Not even close. It is heavily slanted towards the PGA guys.

JT Poston #12 player in the world and Cam Smith #41?

Cam Smith 22-1 at Augusta and JT Poston is 150-1.

Russell Henley #14, Koepka #42.

80-1 and 16-1.

LIV not having more comprehensive SG data is partly to blame but the rankings are miles away from being accurate.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
25977 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:44 pm to
The Rory drama is something to really watch right now. I saw that he met Yasir in London a couple of weeks ago and his stance towards LIV has been Pro-LIV the last few months. There are reports that he and Tiger have more or less split from each other due to strong differences of opinion.

Would not surprise me in the least to see Rory and Phil make up and then Rory announces he is joining LIV.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25977 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:55 pm to
The Top 9 Players on LIV in 2024 were in order:
Talor Gooch (finished 15th at Mayakoba)
Cameron Smith (finished 8th at Mayakoba)
Brooks Koepka (finished 5th at Mayakoba)
Bryson DeChambeau (finished 25th at Mayakoba)
Dustin Johnson (finished 5th at Mayakoba)
Patrick Reed (finished 17th at Mayakoba)
HVIII (finished 54 at Mayakoba)
M. Pereira (finished 43 at Mayakoba)
B Grace (finished 49 at Mayakoba)

Golf is a strange game!
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4800 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Would not surprise me in the least to see Rory and Phil make up and then Rory announces he is joining LIV.




Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24702 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:16 am to
I watch neither anymore. Used to watch lots of golf.

The whole debacle of the sporr turned me off, and I have just lost interest in watching and playing. Went from playing at least once a week, to haven't played in 8 months.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42506 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:31 am to
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JT Poston #12 player in the world and Cam Smith #41? Cam Smith 22-1 at Augusta and JT Poston is 150-1. Russell Henley #14, Koepka #42. 80-1 and 16-1. LIV not having more comprehensive SG data is partly to blame but the rankings are miles away from being accurate.


Data Golf is generally based on your all around play average, not your high end play.

JT Poston has made every cut since the Travelers and has 9 top 10s in his last 13 events. Russell Henley has finished in the top 20 in 10 out his last 14 events.

So their floor has been better than Brooks’ and Cam’s, but obviously Cam and Brooks have a higher ceiling. On top of that, the Masters is one of the biggest “Horse for Courses” places that exist and Brooks and Cam have played very well there historically.

Phil Mickelson has the same odds as JT Poston but to argue they’re the same level of player right now is hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34251 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:09 am to
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Went from playing at least once a week, to haven't played in 8 months.


LIV golf stopped you from actually playing golf? What in the world
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24702 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

LIV golf stopped you from actually playing golf? What in the world


Naw, my back did.

Kinda started enjoying my Saturdays in other ways for a while I guess.

I started losing interest in watching golf well before LIV was even a thing. Used to watch every tournament, then just every Major, then maybe the final rounds of the Majors... to not watching at all.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34251 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:46 pm to
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Naw, my back did.


I feel ya there. I'm 37 and two back surgeries in now. My back kills me daily but especially the day after a round. And good god if I don't stretch before I play I'm in trouble.
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