NLU or Foreplay? Who you like and why

NLU is better.

Foreplay blows

I listen to both, don’t really prefer one over the other. Haven’t ever gotten the pretentious vibe from NLU

I always felt like the foreplay guys would go off topic with a joke and then each of them would say their own version of the joke and laugh at themselves and then waste 10 minutes before getting back to the topic

I like both. Agree with above poster. Both are good for different reasons and they can coexist.

I tried foreplay pod once or twice and just didn’t like it. Didn’t give it that much of a chance to be fair. Really like NLU stuff. Foreplay YouTube content has for sure been better recently. Still prefer NLU.

Honestly just don’t really like Riggs and Frankie that much.

We've had this conversation a few times, but don't know if I've ever got on the stump for The Shotgun Start. Hands down the best gold podcast out there, imo

I don't listen to either podcasts but I like both of their YouTube content.

The best interviews I have heard are from Subpar and it isn't close.

Shotgun Start is fantastic.

Have not listened to NLU.

Recently started consuming some Foreplay stuff.

Started out watching the scrambles. I enjoyed them for what they were. Really liked watching celebs and pros play against these "regular" guys.

Then started consuming more barstool content outside of Foreplay. more than anything, I enjoy the sheer volume of decent content they put out. I can really understand the cult like following they have.

lastly, I've started listening to Foreplay's podcasts. While I enjoy listening to the players they have on, I just don't think these guys are enjoyable to listen to.

- Yes, they go off topic quite a bit. talking about stuff from 4-5 years ago and do nothing to bring new listeners up to speed.
- They are pretty smug about their brand (Dave's Brand), which is fine, but not everyone will bend the knee just because you are a sub-brand under Dave Portnoy.
- Lastly, they seem like completely different guys on the podcast than they do on the scrambles. I think this is what turns me off the most. They are 4 mediocre, at best, golfers. Which is somewhat enjoyable to watch in the scrambles. They seem humble, willing to learn/take tips, aware of their own abilities, and overall regular guys.
Then you turn the podcast on and they seem like they are some sort of podcast/golf journalist gods. We are regular guys, you don't like what we say, Frick You! you interpreted it this way, Frick you. Don't wanna play in our classic, Frick you! Do you know what it takes to put on a tournament? Frick you.
It's like, jeez guys, you are cool, but if you can dish out criticism then you need to expect to get some in return. And maybe use it to better your golf podcasts.

TLDR: a bunch of 15 handicaps, that have minimal golf industry knowledge. They think they're opinions are gold and if you disagree with their take, Frick you.

If you're giving shotgun start a go, you need to find shotgun start nicknames on Twitter. Give it a skim before your first listen. A large portion of it is inside jokey. The golf content is good, but it takes a little bit to catch up to the nicknames. Once you have the nicknames down, the comedy really picks up to match the golf takes.

For example- They call The Senior PGA presented by Kitchain Aid the Kitchen Aid Stand Up Mixer bc all the guys on the champions tour use broom putters. Why they also call Scott McCarron The Anchorman. But if they randomly drop "The Stand Up Mixer" into conversation, it's takes a minute to catch on. But once you have the jokes, you're golden.