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re: Help me understand why PGA golfers are so upset with other golfers going to LIV Tour.

Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:04 pm to
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I think it's because morons like you have a tenuous grasp of the English language specifically and more generally an atrocious usage of grammar and vocabulary.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:53 pm to
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I'd say they have no interest on playing on the LIV Tour rather than being upset at those who are playing there.


I'm not gonna answer each person's comments individually, so here is a summary.

PGA players I named ARE upset with the LIV players and have been quoted saying as much. That is a freaking fact.

Woods made his comments and was quoted too. I didn't say anything about him "bashing" the LIV players. He is not happy(read upset) players are leaving the PGA for LIV.

UP front money? Uhhhh Tiger was paid millions before he ever teed up on the PGA tour. Probably a few top amateurs cashed in before teeing up as a PGA pro.

Calling the LIV players a "a bunch of has beens" or whatever equates to that is such a weak fundamentally wrong opinion. I think 11 LIV players were top 125 in Fed Ex points and a couple are not too far removed from winning majors. (In before # of yrs removed makes them washed up. Rory much?)
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:50 am to
frick LIV
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:11 am to
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frick LIV



You are such a pussy. You can't provide any substantive facts or discussion to the topic. You just post the same whining over and over. Worse than a damn woman
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Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:12 am to
Isn’t hard to understand really.

There are players on tour that other players just flat out don’t like. That a number of them have headed off to LIV I think most would simply say good riddance. But LIV players are trying to have their cake and eat it too, which the players on the PGA tour know will weaken it.

I would dearly love if The Masters came out and told LIV players their tournament is history, tradition and most importantly invitation only. Don’t bother looking for an invitation.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5317 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:34 am to
Most players don’t care. They’re mad these guys took the cash and are now suing the Tour to come back and play. Pretty simple. The LIV players seem to believe what Norman told them, that there would be zero consequences
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:45 am to
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Most players don’t care. They’re mad these guys took the cash and are now suing the Tour to come back and play. Pretty simple. The LIV players seem to believe what Norman told them, that there would be zero consequences


Bingo. Go and stay gone. Pretty simple.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10085 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:32 am to
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I would dearly love if The Masters came out and told LIV players their tournament is history, tradition and most importantly invitation only. Don’t bother looking for an invitation.




That's already started.

Battle lines are being drawn.

Past Champions have a lot of power and say in what Augusta does.

Pretty sure that's why DJ didn't join the lawsuit.

Augusta officials will not air their thoughts in public until its time.

Past Champs wives are already throwing shots at LIV players.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
71104 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:40 am to
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Help me understand why PGA golfers are so upset with other golfers going to LIV Tour


This thread is proof that you don't want help understanding, you want to argue over whether it's founded or not.

If you haven't gotten to the point of "I understand why they're upset, I just don't care or don't agree they should be" by now, I'm not sure anyone here can get you there.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10085 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:45 am to
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Most players don’t care. They’re mad these guys took the cash and are now suing the Tour to come back and play. Pretty simple. The LIV players seem to believe what Norman told them, that there would be zero consequences



Bingo.

LIV Players that took the cash should be able to deal with the fallout and leave the Tour alone.

They should be willing to accept any judgements that the USGA, Augusta and PGA of America decide.

Guys like Mickelson and Reed that talked crap about the Tour in public should never be let in again.
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1706 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:45 am to
I think some were upset that the LIV is trying to screw up the PGA tour. But once they decided to sue the tour, to have their cake and eat it to, then us became at little more serious and many more guys on the PGA tour became pissed.

If ya wanna play the LIV then play the LIV. But to sue the tour to force them to allow you to play both is just shite! Take your $100million and enjoy!
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:49 am to
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But LIV players are trying to have their cake and eat it too,


When you say, "LIV players," do you mean all 3 of them?

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I would dearly love if The Masters came out and told LIV players their tournament is history, tradition and most importantly invitation only. Don’t bother looking for an invitation.



The Masters have a long history of exclusion. They recently were boycotted and picketed by women's groups wanting in. They got in.

The Masters, as a major, is its own entity. Separate from the PGA. Or so they claim. The antitrust is mostly about "collusion' by the PGA with other leagues, sponsors, vendors, majors, and OWGR committee giving out world ranking points.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:57 am to
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When you say, "LIV players," do you mean all 3 of them?


No, the all 11 so far of them.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:08 am to
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No, the all 11 so far of them.


All 11 of them have no interest in playing the PGA. Did you read the antitrust suit by the now 10 players?

Only 3 asked to play. Can you possibly get past the golf channel propaganda?

Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5317 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:49 am to
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All 11 of them have no interest in playing the PGA. Did you read the antitrust suit by the now 10 players? Only 3 asked to play. Can you possibly get past the golf channel propaganda?


They all want to play, but only 3 of them were trying to play this week. You think they’re suing for the hell of it?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:03 am to
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They all want to play, but only 3 of them were trying to play this week. You think they’re suing for the hell of it?



Now, I just told you what's in the antitrust lawsuit in my comments. I'm starting to wonder seriously about your comprehension skills at this point. But just for special people who may have gotten off the short school bus, here it is again.

"The antitrust is mostly about "collusion' by the PGA with other leagues, sponsors, vendors, majors, and OWGR committee giving out world ranking points."

Dude you are the reason that CNN/Fox News/ Golf Chanel/media in general, get away with so much "fake news."

They just dumb it down to the lowest common denominator and spoon-feed it to the masses.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5317 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:15 am to
You understand that if they win the antitrust suit, they can play anywhere they want, correct? So the end goal is to play certain tour events and the majors. Their world rankings are going to crater without the opportunity to play on tour.

But thanks
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:47 am to
So, it has nothing to do with them being suspended from the tour? If the LIV players win the lawsuit none of them are going to play tour events? Thank you for correcting me.

BTW, we already have Mingo. This board doesn’t need another prick.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:50 am to
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You understand that if they win the antitrust suit, they can play anywhere they want, correct? So the end goal is to play certain tour events and the majors. Their world rankings are going to crater without the opportunity to play on tour.



Wow! A well-thought-out idea on your part. See, it doesn't even have to be anything I agree with, but that it's your idea, your thought, way to go big guy!

I know what I read and heard from LIV players. Many of these guys want to play majors, Let me repeat, they want to play majors. They need OWGR points to get it done. The antitrust suit contains a lot of language to try to stop any "collusion" on the part of the PGA with the "Masters" and other majors. From what's being reported, the Masters have already used their major as a stick to discourage PGA players from leaving.

How many PGA events could a full-time LIV player want to play? Next season LIV golfers can enter 14 regular season events. Plus some playing majors that's 18 events. The winning purse is at least 4 million dollars and the last place purse is at least 125,000 just for showing up. If their "group" wins, each golfer in the group gets another 750,000 each. What LIV golfer wants to go play in a PGA golf event for half of that if not more? Would you?

The golf channel is dumbing it down, folks. They are still back there where Jay Monanagan is screaming "they want their cake and eat it too. "Now the LIV golfers all want to come back to the PGA." For what? The money? Baloney!!!

LIV wants to compete with the PGA on a level playing field. Monahan is trying to prevent just that through intimidation and propaganda with every stick in his closet. You know, lowest common denominator.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87391 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:01 am to
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This is embarrassing for you
Huh, it's a legit question. If anything is embarrassing on here, it's your posts on this topic.
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