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re: Have we talked about Matt Kuchar paying his caddy $5k after his win at Mayakoba?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:23 pm to DFWgolfer318
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:23 pm to DFWgolfer318
quote:You agreed with me multiple times and I'm certainly not claiming "everyone else" is ignorant. Just those who don't know the facts thanks to shite reporting. I replied to a few people on twitter who were shite talking Kuch telling them that he'd made the 20k offer and they all backtracked.
about how right you are and everyone else is ignorant.
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:23 pm to DFWgolfer318
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I think you are smarter than this.
There is no industry standard for one-time use of a completely random caddy. None.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:32 pm to ell_13
The ultimate troll would be for Kuch to return this year and carry his own clubs and win 
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:49 pm to BlastOff
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What a guy, tipped him a cool 1k after getting a check for 1.296 mil.
What difference does it make what Kuchar earned? Are rich people now required to give a ton of money to someone just because they're financially able to? Again, epitome of entitlement. The guy carried clubs for 4 days. Tell me why you think he is entitled to more than what he agreed to accept from Kuchar prior to the tournament. If 4k wasn't good enough for him, then maybe he shouldn;t have accepted the job. Kuchar, if you haven't noticed, is a pretty good golfer, so him winning was always a possibility. If he thought he should have been paid a higher rate were Kuchar to win, then maybe that should have been addressed prior to him accepting the deal that was offered.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:52 pm to ell_13
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The service provided was literally walking around and holding his stuff for 5 days while keeping it clean. 5k is damn generous regardless of the payout for something so simple.
I used to caddy for the pro-am at the FedEx St. Jude Classic every year when I was in high school. Like this guy, all I did was carry a bag and clean the clubs. I was paid like $300 for the day and was damn happy to receive it.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:53 pm to lsufball19
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What difference does it make what Kuchar earned? Are rich people now required to give a ton of money to someone just because they're financially able to? Again, epitome of entitlement. The guy carried clubs for 4 days. Tell me why you think he is entitled to more than what he agreed to accept from Kuchar prior to the tournament. If 4k wasn't good enough for him, then maybe he shouldn;t have accepted the job
Using your theory you shouldn't tip more for exceptional service, if tip at all.
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Kuchar, if you haven't noticed, is a pretty good golfer, so him winning was always a possibility.
He hadn't won for four years before that tournament.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:55 pm to lsufball19
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I used to caddy for the pro-am at the FedEx St. Jude Classic every year when I was in high school. Like this guy, all I did was carry a bag and clean the clubs. I was paid like $300 for the day and was damn happy to receive it.
1. Caddying for a pro am is nowhere near the same as Caddying for an entire tournament.
2. If you say you didn't get tips, I don't believe you
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:55 pm to DFWgolfer318
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Using your theory you shouldn't tip more for exceptional service, if tip at all.
He gave the guy a 25% tip from his agreed upon terms were Kuchar to finish in the top 20, which was $4k. Do you tip your servers more than 25%?
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He hadn't won for four years before that tournament.
ok?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:58 pm to lsufball19
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He gave the guy a 25% tip from his agreed upon terms were Kuchar to finish in the top 20, which was $4k
This is disenginous and I hope you know that.
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Do you tip your servers more than 25%?
I have before because it was the right thing to do. If I go watch a game at a restaurant and get one beer I'll tip sometimes even more than 100%. I sat at a table for a couple hours and didn't spend any money really. By doing that I cost that server money so I'll tip like $8 on a $4 beer. I'm not required to do that, but I feel like I should since I'm taking money out of someone else's pocket and I'm sure they appreciate it.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:59 pm to DFWgolfer318
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1. Caddying for a pro am is nowhere near the same as Caddying for an entire tournament.
You're right, it's 1 day compared to 4. What this guy did wasn't a hell of a lot different than what I did for 1 day.
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2. If you say you didn't get tips, I don't believe you
The $300 was my tip. I wasn't guaranteed to be paid for any of it. I was asked to do it and jumped at the opportunity to get to be around professional golfers all day. I didn't care about how much money I was being paid to do it (was supposed to be with Greg Norman one year, he backed out, funny story behind that actually. Was supposed to be with DLIII another year and I believe he got hurt, ended up with Dimarco). I said it earlier ITT, I would have done it for free just for the experience. I don't really care if you believe me or not.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:01 pm to DFWgolfer318
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This is disenginous and I hope you know that.
Do tell? You created the analogyof tipping your server, not me.
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I have before because it was the right thing to do. If I go watch a game at a restaurant and get one beer I'll tip sometimes even more than 100%. I sat at a table for a couple hours and didn't spend any money really. By doing that I cost that server money so I'll tip like $8 on a $4 beer. I'm not required to do that, but I feel like I should since I'm taking money out of someone else's pocket and I'm sure they appreciate it.
what money exactly did Kuchar take out of his pocket? Does that guy ever make close to 5k over a weekend? I think you know the answer to that. Do you think a $1000 tip is inadequate for a guy making $200/day normally?
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:05 pm to lsufball19
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Do tell? You created the analogyof tipping your server, not me.
You asked about tipping a server.
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. Do you think a $1000 tip is inadequate for a guy making $200/day normally?
It depends, just like everything else in life it's not black and white. In this situation, yes I do. I wouldnt have given the guy $100k, but i would have given him $15-20. Not becusue I had to, but given all of the facts, it wouldve been the right thing to do, in my opinion.
You don't have to agree with me and that's perfectly fine, but don't get upset when people call you a cheap a-hole.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:08 pm to lsufball19
I still don't understand nor have I seen it addressed as to why Kuchar was using a local caddy.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:10 pm to COTiger
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I still don't understand nor have I seen it addressed as to why Kuchar was using a local caddy.
From what i understand he was playing in Australia the next week so his caddie went there and took the week off in Mexico. This happens quite often.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:16 pm to DFWgolfer318
A Tour event in Australia?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:19 pm to COTiger
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A Tour event in Australia?
Australian PGA is around that time so I'm assuming that but I'm not sure
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:15 pm to DFWgolfer318
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but i would have given him $15-20
oh so the amount he was offered and turned down because it wasn't enough?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:18 pm to lsufball19
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oh so the amount he was offered and turned down because it wasn't enough?
Yes I would have given him that amount originally, not after the story came out
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:20 pm to ell_13
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Another analogy would be if you told an uber to take you to a casino and wait outside until you were done gambling and pay them $1k to do it. Does that number go up simply because you won a jackpot or poker tournament?
If you want to use that comparison it would be more like tipping your dealer, and you better believe that people who win those tourneys tip more than normal.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:24 pm to DFWgolfer318
Tour standard for a local caddy is around 5% if you win, 10% for your own caddy.
When most of the golfers and caddies who are speaking on this issue say Kuch is ripping him off, I’m going to trust them.
When most of the golfers and caddies who are speaking on this issue say Kuch is ripping him off, I’m going to trust them.
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