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Getting back spin on chips
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:48 pm
How do you do this? I’ve had it happen before but I can’t seem to make it happen.
What is the ideal lie to learn how and do balls matter?
Also, do you need a certain quality of golf ball to be able to do it?
What is the ideal lie to learn how and do balls matter?
Also, do you need a certain quality of golf ball to be able to do it?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:53 pm to BRsundog
Will balls make a difference? Sure, but that depends on the level of golfer you are.
Club head speed generally produces spin. Being able to use the bounce, open the face and still come in with a good amount of speed will produce spin and keep you from launching 30 yards over the green.
Ideal lie? Just practice where you’re usually hitting that shot. Gnarly rough will cut down spin, tight lies will be really tough until you learn to use the bounce.
Club head speed generally produces spin. Being able to use the bounce, open the face and still come in with a good amount of speed will produce spin and keep you from launching 30 yards over the green.
Ideal lie? Just practice where you’re usually hitting that shot. Gnarly rough will cut down spin, tight lies will be really tough until you learn to use the bounce.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 5:29 pm to BRsundog
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How do you do this? I’ve had it happen before but I can’t seem to make it happen.
you're probably "scooping" the ball which means you are coming in shallow, which is typical for amateurs or people new to golf. It's a bit counter intuitive but you want to come in steep on a chip to generate back spin, I find putting more weight on my front foot helps along with having it farther back in your stance.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:08 pm to BRsundog
do balls matter?
Urethane cover balls spin much more.
Urethane cover balls spin much more.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:38 pm to BRsundog
Don't ask me....I play a Left Dash. I couldn't get that SOB to spin if I dropped it on a Tilt O'Whirl.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:46 pm to RolltidePA
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Ideal lie? Just practice where you’re usually hitting that shot. Gnarly rough will cut down spin, tight lies will be really tough until you learn to use the bounce.
Joseph Mayo would like a word
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:54 pm to BRsundog
Loft, speed, ball, and sharp grooves. My wedges are several years old and I can definitely tell I get less spin then when they were brand new over a time span y ball striking has improved quite a bit, especially around the greens.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:16 pm to MrSpock
#spinloft the Joe Mayo technique works well for spin on the ball. Use a lob wedge and make ball first contact. Look up his technique and try it for yourself. The wet winters here in Nashville made me move away from “using the bounce” as much. It’s an easy way to flub a shot. Ball first contact ensures you won’t chili dip it 3 feet.
When it’s nice out and the course is dry, using the bounce and chipping overall is much easier. However, if I were to choose one technique in all conditions, it would be the Joe Mayo technique.
When it’s nice out and the course is dry, using the bounce and chipping overall is much easier. However, if I were to choose one technique in all conditions, it would be the Joe Mayo technique.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:29 am to BRsundog
Usually, when I get a chip to spin, it's when I've left it 30 ft short anticipating roll out.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:22 am to PureBlood
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Usually, when I get a chip to spin, it's when I've left it 30 ft short anticipating roll out.
I'm exactly the same way, when I want it to spin, it rolls 10' past the hole, when I want it to roll out, it checks up 10' short of the hole. I wish I could make that dang ball do what I want it to do, I mean, the ball is just sitting there, how hard can it actually be, incredibly hard.
Here's another thing, I don't always hit my sand wedge 150 yards but when I do, it's from a green side bunker!

Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:59 am to dek81572
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Here's another thing, I don't always hit my sand wedge 150 yards but when I do, it's from a green side bunker!

I actually like a greenside bunker shot. It's the only time I know I can get spin on the ball
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:56 am to MrSpock
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Joseph Mayo would like a word
Can't deny his technique works, but I struggle with it. You need about 15 degrees of shaft lean and a very steep angle of attack to really get spin going for you. Need to have a lot of weight on your front foot as well. Probably a lot tougher to chunk the ball using that approach. You'll need that Trackman data that he loves to see if you're getting it right.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:01 am to RolltidePA
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Can't deny his technique works, but I struggle with it. You need about 15 degrees of shaft lean and a very steep angle of attack to really get spin going for you. Need to have a lot of weight on your front foot as well. Probably a lot tougher to chunk the ball using that approach. You'll need that Trackman data that he loves to see if you're getting it right.
I tend to err on the side of steep a la Mayo since I play on a ton of tight bermuda, but shallow with the bounce definitely has it's place.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:18 am to MrSpock
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I tend to err on the side of steep a la Mayo since I play on a ton of tight bermuda, but shallow with the bounce definitely has it's place.
I originally tried his technique because of wet sloppy winter conditions where I'd chunk the ball. I had mixed success, it either was amazing, or I'd rip it across the green on a mishit. I'm such a natural sweeper, it was like rewiring 20 years worth of muscle memory.
My home course has a really tight lies as well and I just bought one of the Ping 159 B grind wedges to try out and see if it works for me. It's very weird. Has an 8 degree bounce and a very wide sole, it's meant for shallow sweepers and just floats along the ground on wet or tight lies. A couple of downsides is that it doesn't generate quite as much spin as my old wedges since you have to hit it fairly square; and in bunkers you have to swing a lot less hard because the sole floats on sand as well, so you can't really blast out of it or you'll hit 20 yards over the green. So far I've adjusted to the less spin and have actually holed a few. It's easy to warm up with or use on days where touch is an issue, because its just a basic swing with a relatively square setup, but the jury is still out on whether it stays in the bag.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:14 pm to MrSpock
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I tend to err on the side of steep a la Mayo since I play on a ton of tight bermuda, but shallow with the bounce definitely has it's place.
Strange. I know there’s no end all be all because we’re all different, but short game chef teaches the opposite and accounts for things like grain and Bermuda by tilting the shaft up. Works really well for me.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:14 pm to wutangfinancial
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Strange. I know there’s no end all be all because we’re all different, but short game chef teaches the opposite and accounts for things like grain and Bermuda by tilting the shaft up. Works really well for me.
Tilting the shaft increases the AOA.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:03 pm to MrSpock
Fair enough but the feel is still shallow
Posted on 5/7/25 at 7:03 pm to BRsundog
Different green conditions and grass type can have a big effect on that.
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