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Forged vs Cast Irons

Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:23 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22809 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:23 pm
I read a lot how cast irons are more forgiving and forged irons have better feel and workability. I guess my question is what is the benefit of better feel, and what are forged irons able to do that cavity backs cant?

I get wanting more forgiveness as a beginner, more just curious what the actual sacrifice is and what you get out of stepping up to a forged club head.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by sdw1002
Member since Jun 2017
147 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:32 pm to
Forged vs. cast is the question you are trying to ask. A cavity back isn’t necessarily either one.
Posted by sdw1002
Member since Jun 2017
147 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:34 pm to
But to somewhat answer your question, a cast club which are most of your game improvement irons are going to be a lot more forgiving. Feel and workability/consistency are what you gain from a forged head.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 11:36 pm
Posted by RockinDood
Member since Aug 2020
1015 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:28 am to
I’ll reiterate that I think the question you are asking is what’s the difference between “cavity back” irons and traditional blades or “muscle back” style irons; as either of those can be forged or cast.

In general cavity back irons allow for more forgiveness on off center hits or less ideal contact as their design allows for perimeter weighting and thinner faces that are more “springy.” It increases the MOI and COR and makes the sweet spot larger. These irons are also usually aimed at the mid-high handicapper and often have more game improvement features like thicker soles, more offset and taller or deeper faces.

Blades, in general are angled more toward someone who prefers to give up forgiveness and distance for workability, and who is much better at always compressing the ball at the sweet spot of the face, and who is also much more likely to make ball first contact most of the time.

Either of thee can be forged or cast. Forged irons have been described as being softer than cast and less brittle or “clicky.”
Now you can even get cast heads with forged faces, and some blade style irons are actually hollow and filled with urethane or other material so you get the look of the blade with the forgiveness of the cavity back. These are also available with more or less offset, taller face angles for more distance, etc. so the line has been blurred a lot over the last few years. Don’t discount cast irons though. There are many REALLY good irons that are cast. PING made a name for themselves making cast irons.

IMO I think the average golfer should be playing with cavity back “game improvement” irons with a moderate amount of offset and a good quality 2 piece ionomer cover ball. Save the butter knives for making toast, you’ll be a much happier golfer.
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
1982 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 5:55 am to
Life is short. Play blades

Everybody should have a set of blades or even a half set just to play around with sometimes. You might be surprised
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 6:51 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38666 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:34 am to
My guy is a 37 handicap and wants forged players irons.


Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22809 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:47 am to
quote:

My guy is a 37 handicap and wants forged players irons.


I don’t. I just like knowing the difference of what’s out there so I can avoid buying something detrimental.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84415 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Play blades
Gross
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4820 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:54 am to
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Life is short. Play blades


quote:

According to Titleist, 70% of tour players use cavity backs while 30% use blades.


All the Rico's in here should be playing CBs. Want to practice with a 7 iron MB on the range be my guest.
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
1982 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:54 am to
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All the Rico's in here should be playing CBs. Want to practice with a 7 iron MB on the range be my guest.


Without a doubt. The better players can absolutely play blade scoring irons if they wanted. I’m not advocating for anything, only saying that the difference on course isn’t like most think it is. If you’re more than a casual golfer you should try to hit some and see what you think.
Posted by RockinDood
Member since Aug 2020
1015 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Life is short. Play blades Everybody should have a set of blades or even a half set just to play around with sometimes. You might be surprised


Nike made a splash back in the day with the pro combo. The longer irons were cavity backs and the short irons were muscle backs. I know a lot of people liked those. If you really want to have an adventure find yourself a set of old blades from the 60s like the old Wilson Sam Sneads or some Hogans. Flat, sharp sole with little or no bounce, sweet spot the size of a frozen snow pea and just as forgiving.

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don’t. I just like knowing the difference of what’s out there so I can avoid buying something detrimental.



If you REALLY don’t like the look of cavity backs and you want a blade style iron but you need the forgiveness look at something like the Takomo, Taylor Made P790, Kirkland, etc.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9810 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:32 am to
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Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9810 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:36 am to
There are now some very forgiving forged clubs available like the Srixons and Mizuno's.

And a lot of the hollow body irons like the 790's & PXG'S have forged faces that promote feel and speed.


I playing Ping cast irons for years, now I love the feel of forged.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18521 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:36 am to
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My guy is a 37 handicap and wants forged players irons.


Make sure to play the tips. It’s not real golf unless you tip it out.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
38263 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 5:39 pm to
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Life is short. Play blades

Not as a beginner, or even anyone with a handicap over 10-12. You just have to be too perfect for forged blades or any cavity back considered a player iron. The game is about enjoyment, not chasing hooks and worm burners all over the place.
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