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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
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You could own the most expensive irons out there, but if they don't fit you yourself in particular, then they are automatically inferior imo compared to a humble set that actually fits.


Getting specs for someone who doesn’t play a lot and likely doesn’t have a consistent swing is not the most important thing to improve their game. One or two degrees of lie angle and a high kick point are not as significant as a decent set of clubs, which will likely lead to more rounds of golf and eventually needing to be fitted.
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Zamperini2014
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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
Quote- And 91 could certainly be x stiff, but you were just trying to peddle expensive after market stuff and move people in and out

Your exactly right! We charged the piss out of
People! Reason being is the average guy thinks he can buy a better game. You can’t! You need lessons, the average guy isn’t good enough to experience the benefit of properly fitted clubs. If you can break 90 as a general rule get fit. If you can’t play dead in a John Wayne movie get some lessons first. For the record I teach now full time and don’t fit for them anymore.


Mingo Was His NameO
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Your exactly right! We charged the piss out of
People! Reason being is the average guy thinks he can buy a better game. You can’t! You need lessons, the average guy isn’t good enough to experience the benefit of properly fitted clubs. If you can break 90 as a general rule get fit. If you can’t play dead in a John Wayne movie get some lessons first. For the record I teach now full time and don’t fit for them anymore.


You sound like a huge douche bag and scammer


Jefferson Dawg
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the average guy thinks he can buy a better game. You can’t!

Exactly. For some reason, people who may be level-headed in other areas, are simultaneously some of the biggest suckers known to man when it comes to golf equipment.

The posts in this thread are just an extension of that. They don't understand what a golf club even is.

Brand name and price are fricking meaningless.


bopper50
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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
Most club repair guys can bend the 410's one degree either way with little trouble.

Bending them more than that should be sent back to Ping to bend.

They smash the hell out of them with a big hammer. Unbelievable but it's on Pings video.


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htcthc321
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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
That statement couldn't be further from the truth. Sure you have your boutique brands and models, but for the most part, you get what you pay for with golf equipment. And at the end of the day, who gives a shite what's in another guy's bag?

My Bettinardi has a better feel to it than the Wilson model that was in my bag as a teenager. My P760s have a better feel to them than the Bridges branded irons I grew up learning on...


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Zamperini2014
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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
Quote - You sound like a huge douche bag and scammer



Neither US army vet, LSU alumni and I will give you 3 a side kid!


ell_13
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Neither US army vet, LSU alumni
These aren’t exactly arguments against being a douchebag and scammer.


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Jefferson Dawg
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That statement couldn't be further from the truth. Sure you have your boutique brands and models, but for the most part, you get what you pay for with golf equipment.

Strongly disgree.

Most of what you are paying for on the top shelf is to cover all the marketing and golfer endorsements and rigged reviews they shelled out for to set the hook in your lip. But in the end you're just getting the same club but with maybe some neon detail colorings and maybe something gay like "Rocketballz" printed on it

Let's not forget that Bobby Jones, the greatest of all time, played with hickory shafts for shits sake.

Look. I would almost guarantee you that if anyone on here went to get fitted and told them to let you try many different sets across the pricing spectrum (including the top shelf bull shite and also the modest priced) without telling you which ones were which....that most of you would be shocked to find out you chose irons from to lower shelf.


GRTiger
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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
I swing a now older Wilson driver with an aldila aftermarket shaft that was in their line and was a small up charge. I say that to say I definitely don't chase name when looking at clubs. But there is no way you can say that every club and brand yields equal results for one person, especially drivers. There are things that will change someone's game with no change to their swing. And there are things that some clubs can do that others can't, across the top and bottom shelves.

And at the end of the day, sometimes someone isn't interested, can't afford, or doesn't have time to take lessons to change their swing and be able to shoot low with a 20 year old Top Flite box set. Variations in technology can definitely improve your game, even if marginally, with little intentional change to your swing. Customized weighting alone can change the impact angle of a club face and reduce the bad misses on whichever side you hit it to on those misses.


htcthc321
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While you may be right to an extent on the marketing piece, as there as companies out there like PXG literally using "Science of Sexy" tag line, let's not act like all brands are created equal. The bigger brands have bigger budgets, and A LOT more than goes into their respective R&D departments. But I guess by your definition it's the same amount of R&D in a boxed set of Top Flites?

I guess the same applies to golf balls as well? I should quit paying for Bridgestones or Titleist and just buy some Top Flites, since they'll all perform the same?

Like I said earlier, I grew up on a set of Bridges branded irons that I bought from my local golf shop as a teenager. I paid $125 for a brand new 4-PW set. It would be asinine of me to claim that those clubs contained the same level of craftsmanship and R&D that my P760s have. Or what about the Tour issued Apex Pro Dots I just got rid of? Several distinct characteristics and completely different feeling than the regular Apex Pros, but I guess they set the hook on me on the old bait and switch, huh?
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Jefferson Dawg
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I guess the same applies to golf balls as well? I should quit paying for Bridgestones or Titleist and just buy some Top Flites, since they'll all perform the same?

Yes, the exact same concept applies to golf balls too. And absolutely, a rock hard Top Flite might actually produce better results than a Pro V1 for many people.

Honestly though, if you did a blind test and let people hit 10 balls but they didn't know that each one was a different brand, most would never even realize it.




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Jefferson Dawg
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re: Calling ALL golfing experts
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But there is no way you can say that every club and brand yields equal results for one person

I didn't say that. My point is the opposite of that.


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