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re: Bryson’s crazy custom driver vs his stats
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:27 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:27 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Lol the best wedge players on tour do this. I’m sorry you didn’t get that from what i was saying. There’s apparently a lot of things you don’t get. Arguing me saying 6-8s’ consistently and showing me 8’ actually proves my point. Bryson isn’t just not a very good wedge player. He’s one of the worst on tour. Considering he has more wedges into holes than most do on tour is an issue. I’d expect the mad scientist to know this. Now someone who isn’t talk enough ride the roller coasters? Not so much.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:27 am to Tiger1242
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Yes but the closer he gets to the hole off the tee the closer his average distance to hole after approach is which is why he’s doing this.
Another way to say it, yes he’s one of the worst wedge players of all of the elite guys, but he’s better with his wedges than he is with his irons, so he’d rather hit a wedge
His wedge play is independent of the conversation of his driving. He drives the ball long as shite and straight, which is always going to be better than short.
Does he need to get better with his wedges? Absolutely. And if he does he may be nearly unbeatable because he does drive it so good and he's a really good putter as well.
But whether he hits his wedges great or like shite, he still drives the shite out of the ball
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:28 am to Tiger1242
He isn’t just the worst wedge players of the elite golfers. He’s one of the worst wedge players on tour.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:30 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Lol wel yeah he does. He hits the ball probably 100 yards past most golfers on the planet. I just don’t get the approach to his theory. He drives the ball long as shite but he doesn’t drive it all that straight either. His driving accuracy is a major issue. Guy has a ton of wedges into greens and is like hellen Keller with a wedge in his hand.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:31 am to RawDog7984
I don’t know what exactly you’re arguing man but the best players in the world absolutely do not hit the ball 6-8’ average on wedge approaches. The VERY best on tour is just outside of 8’ average, everyone else is outside of that, so clearly you are wrong.
And again, yes he’s a shitty wedge player compared to his peers, but he hits his wedges closer than his irons so getting it up there as far as possibly does make sense
And again, yes he’s a shitty wedge player compared to his peers, but he hits his wedges closer than his irons so getting it up there as far as possibly does make sense
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:32 am to RawDog7984
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I’m sorry you didn’t get that from what i was saying
Get what? That you said elite players hit it 6-8' from 50 to 75 yards? I don't get it because it's not true. You were wrong, thats ok, but digging your feet in the sand just makes you look stupid.
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Arguing me saying 6-8s’ consistently and showing me 8’ actually proves my point.
They don't, only 7 guys hit it within 10' with consistency and the difference of make rate between 8 and 10 feet is 10% so it's a very big distinction.
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Bryson isn’t just not a very good wedge player.
Correct, but again, that doesn't have anything to do with you making shite up.
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Considering he has more wedges into holes than most do on tour is an issue. I’d expect the mad scientist to know this.
Are you advocating he start hitting 7 irons into greens because he's not a good wedge player? He's going to be even further from the hole doing that.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:34 am to RawDog7984
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he doesn’t drive it all that straight either.
You're an idiot
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His driving accuracy is a major issue
If it were an issue he wouldn't be gaining 5 shots a tournament of the field off the tee.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:36 am to Mingo Was His NameO
He’s 193rd in driving accuracy. Lol. How can you be so short and so stupid?? But to you he drives the ball straight as shite right?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:38 am to RawDog7984
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He’s 193rd in driving accuracy
Driving accuracy is measured on 2 holes a tournament and if you miss the fairway by an inch you get 0/1.
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But to you he drives the ball straight as shite right?
Yes, he drives it pretty damn straight.
But, at the end of the day, you're right and Mark Broadie who's a professor at an Ivy league school and has tracked hundreds of millions of golf shots doesn't know what hes talking about.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:40 am to RawDog7984
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I just don’t get the approach to his theory
His approach is to remove "feel" from the game and go strictly by numbers. Obviously he has very little immagination which is why he has no short game. He cannot apply the bomb and gauge approach to the wedges like you can on full shots.
his driving is the least of his issues according to his numbers other than his accuracy (t198 on tour), he needs to start focusing on his approach shots (T78 GIR) and Sand Saves (96th)
His scrabmling stats from 30 yards is absolutely horrible 15 of 58
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:41 am to Tiger1242
I’m not really sure if i didn’t say it right but elite wedge players on tour consistently (that doesn’t mean every damn time) hit it within 6-8 feet, if you avg 8 feet you’re hitting it within 8 feet pretty often. I’m not even sure why we’re arguing this when the point is Bryson is pure hot fire dog shite with a wedge in his hand. That’s the point. Why wouldn’t you take some time away from being a long drive champion and just put that time into becoming just an avg wedge player? I think the success he is having would be just as good and even more sustainable than what he’s doing.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Driving accuracy is measured on 2 holes a tournament and if you miss the fairway by an inch you get 0/1.
He is 477 of 900 out of 52 rounds...so that seems like a few more than 2 holes
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
He drives it straight alright. Straight right and left but 370 yards down in the rough.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:42 am to RawDog7984
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if you avg 8 feet
Only 3 guys average between 8 and 9 feet and no one averages 8 feet or less.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:44 am to RawDog7984
Here’s what’s so great about Bryson, I started this thread questioning wtf he’s doing and now here I am defending him
The guys nothing if not interesting
The guys nothing if not interesting
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:46 am to RawDog7984
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I’m not really sure if i didn’t say it right but elite wedge players on tour consistently (that doesn’t mean every damn time) hit it within 6-8 feet, if you avg 8 feet you’re hitting it within 8 feet pretty often. I’m not even sure why we’re arguing this when the point is Bryson is pure hot fire dog shite with a wedge in his hand. That’s the point. Why wouldn’t you take some time away from being a long drive champion and just put that time into becoming just an avg wedge player? I think the success he is having would be just as good and even more sustainable than what he’s doing.
if you are watching the telecast of any golf tournament, you are seeing 4-5 goups of 3 players, so maybe 20 golfers at the most. there are 150ish players in every golf tournament so you are seeing most likely the best of players or the best shots for each round televised. so you are gauging your expreience as actual stat is what it sounds like.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:47 am to Tiger1242
Lol he’s a weird one. I disliked him when he first got on tour. Then i started to like him. And now i dislike him again. Guy can play though.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:49 am to BeaverPRO
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if you are watching the telecast of any golf tournament, you are seeing 4-5 goups of 3 players, so maybe 20 golfers at the most. there are 150ish players in every golf tournament so you are seeing most likely the best of players or the best shots for each round televised. so you are gauging your expreience as actual stat is what it sounds like.
This and he can't comprehend a bad wedge shot is still as good or better than a good 7 iron for pros.
That doesn't mean Bryson doesn't need to get better with his wedges because he does. That's what turned DJ into a great player from a really really good player 8 or so years ago now.
But again, Bryson being shitty with a wedge is independent of how great he has hit his driver the last couple of years, which for whatever Rawdog has also said is not true.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:54 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Lol i literally just said he hits the ball longer than anyone dreams of ya midget. I just don’t say he drives the ball straight because he def doesn’t. If you’re 190th in driving accuracy it says something about your game. The guy pounds the ball. Nobody here has even argued that.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:20 am to dpd901
You forgot to mention his marketability now, too.
The fact we are comparing Bryson to DJ, Rory and Morikawa in this thread is proof in of itself that his new game is in fact working. I would imagine swinging that hard creates more variability in his scoring (can we confirm this?) throughout the season but his upside is massive ala US Open victory, Arnny victory.
The fact we are comparing Bryson to DJ, Rory and Morikawa in this thread is proof in of itself that his new game is in fact working. I would imagine swinging that hard creates more variability in his scoring (can we confirm this?) throughout the season but his upside is massive ala US Open victory, Arnny victory.
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