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re: Baton Rouge needs another public course or 2

Posted on 4/2/19 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 3:35 pm to
I believe West Side Golf Club is still open. It is closer than The Island. Also, Pelican Point has a 9 and 18 hole course.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 3:46 pm to
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So while not nearly as many as Greensboro


To compare Baton Rouge and Greensboro demographics or LA vs NC as a whole is laughable. Greensboro is a short drive from Charlotte, Winston-Salem and Raleigh-Durham.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64425 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 5:55 pm to
The problem is the amount of shitty public courses that resources are being wasted on. There are at least 3 BREC courses that need to be closed
Posted by bamaswallows
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
1203 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:55 pm to
Also should I as a tax paying resident of EBR get a discounted green fee at SM as compared to a non tax paying NO resident who comes down to play? I think YES. It’s ridiculous that Brec doesn’t have discounts for EBR residents
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5288 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:00 pm to
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To compare Baton Rouge and Greensboro demographics or LA vs NC as a whole is laughable. Greensboro is a short drive from Charlotte, Winston-Salem and Raleigh-Durham.


Also, North Carolina is a great golf state, while Louisiana is terrible
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2211 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 4:15 am to
Yea, wasn't trying to make an apples to apples comparison with Greensboro. The 40 courses number just shocked me because it is so different than ours.


Growing up, there were just many more options in the city, and now we have lost a lot of those options. And I don't know why I'm acting like Santa Maria is "in town." Course is three steps from Prairieville.
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:00 am to
Golf is a dying sport. The public courses can stay packed and still barely get by. They have to make their rates low enough to convince people to play.

I quit the game for good a few months ago. You can’t get a weekend round in where I live that won’t take nearly 5 hours. Factor in driving to and from the course, warming up, etc. I just don’t consistently have 7 hours to burn on chasing a ball around.
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:52 am to
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You can’t get a weekend round in where I live that won’t take nearly 5 hours. Factor in driving to and from the course, warming up, etc. I just don’t consistently have 7 hours to burn on chasing a ball around.

.you always brag about how much money you make, just join a club. If you're in Houston, you're almost guaranteed to be close to Shadow Hawk, Champions, Royal Oaks, Lochinvar or Carlton Woods. All of those courses are empty and can play in 3 hours.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:50 am to
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The problem is the amount of shitty public courses that resources are being wasted on. There are at least 3 BREC courses that need to be closed


Rounds by year per BREC (BR Biz Report)
2012 - 130k
2013 - 133k
2014 - 135k
2015 - 127k
2016 - 109k
2017 - 112k
2018 - 111k

We do not need new courses. BREC knows this. If you play only during peak times then you don't have a good view of golf in BR. Go to a course Monday through Thursday. Go to a golf course anytime from late September to Early March. The courses are empty.

BREC wishes they could close courses but they cannot figure out which group to piss off. The minorities near Dumas/Clark or the actual taxpayers near Webb/City Park.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:32 am to
Brec should dump a ton of money into Webb when it figures out which course to close.

Its in a pristine spot next to the garden district, Webb should be a great course IMO.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:41 am to
I completely agree. My personal opinion is they should close Dumas. I wish they would make City Park a badass Par 3 course and make Webb a cool track. If they are not going to do anything with City Park to make it cool then close it. It is a complete waste of space as is.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:42 am
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:29 am to
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Baton Rouge needs another public course or 2


Absolutely not. Baton Rouge needs to reduce the amount of public courses it has by at least two.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:18 am to
Close Dumas and City Park, dump a ton of money into Webb and get it pristine with about a $40-50 green fee.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22760 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:31 am to
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completely agree. My personal opinion is they should close Dumas. I wish they would make City Park a badass Par 3 course and make Webb a cool track. If they are not going to do anything with City Park to make it cool then close it. It is a complete waste of space as is.

Bring the designer of Audubon and let them redo city park as a par three would be great. Web is fun. Just need better greens.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18121 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:41 am to
I still say there is enough land around Dumas & Clark that you could combine them into one 36 hole facility...or a redesigned 3 9’s...with a range and do a massive redesign and make it a viable option for BR golfers.

A course on the level of Webb won’t draw people out there. But it could be the only multi course facility in BR. Make one of the courses really nice with some work and build a decent clubhouse and they could have something.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 9:44 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:52 am to
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Absolutely not. Baton Rouge needs to reduce the amount of public courses it has by at least two.



Yep. BREC needs to get rid of one 18 hole and one 9 hole.

LSU is rarely discussed but I wish it would close over any BREC courses. Primarily because LSU will never do anything to make it better. Politically they cannot. I think there is a chance BREC will make courses better but LSU will not.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 11:15 am to
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Close Dumas and City Park, dump a ton of money into Webb and get it pristine with about a $40-50 green fee
even with pristine conditions, a $40-50 green free is aittle too much. It's not that great of a layout to warrant that much.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
58292 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 11:25 am to
true, just get it to where you have really good grass and greens, actual sand in bunkers
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:54 pm to
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even with pristine conditions, a $40-50 green free is aittle too much. It's not that great of a layout to warrant that much.


If Webb was in pristine conditions it would be worth $40-$50 all day especially in that location.

You cannot say we need new courses then say you wouldn't even pay for a pristine one. There in lies the entire problem with golf in BR. It just isn't a priority for people. They want tee times during peak times only and want them for cheap and oh they want sand in bunkers and greens full of grass rolling a 12.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2211 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 1:28 pm to
If Webb was in as good of shape as Carter, it would easily command similar prices just because of location.

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