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Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Bawpaw
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:54 pm to
Wow. Touched a nerve? If you worked for BREC amd you were the super at SM, Webb, City you should would be updating your resume or be ashamed of your performance. It’s horrendous and inexcusable and has been for some time. I know they don’t make as much as private clubs, so if it’s not the supers fault I would think they would move on to a private club if they are being handcuffed by other obstacles that prevent them from adequately caring for the course.
Posted by 904
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:10 pm to
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I would rather pay the $80 and actually play golf.


Not sure why you're pretending Webb is the only course around town. Sure, I wish their greens were in better shape, but they are what they are until they do major renovations. Until then, Webb and City Park are great for getting out for $11 after work and getting some swings in.

Meanwhile, you can pay $50 and play great golf at The Island, Beaver Creek, Santa Maria, and hopefully Copper Mill when they reopen. There's also Greystone, Pelican Point, the new Clark course, and Carter Plantation is a great track within driving distance. Plenty of "actual" public golf in good/great condition around Baton Rouge that's reasonably priced as well that you can play all year long unlike literally half the country. That is my point.

Honestly, the worst part about Baton Rouge golf is the golfers themselves.


This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:31 pm to
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Honestly, the worst part about Baton Rouge golf is the golfers themselves.


I think the worst part about Baton Rouge golf is that so little of it is actually in Baton Rouge. Gonzales, Plaquemine, Denham Springs, Zachary, Baker.

Hopefully BREC sees what's going on at Clark and makes a concerted effort to improve Webb and City accordingly.
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:43 pm to
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but did you actually have greens you could putt on? Yea, I pay $30 at Webb, but the golf stops once my ball is on the putting surface.


Come play at Fennwood in Zachary. Greens and course are in great shape. Yes it’s a nine hole course but has two sets of tees that changes the way holes play. Won’t be disappointed Can’t beat it for $40
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:52 pm to
Forgot about Fennwood, I used to play out there a good bit about 10 years ago.

Greens were always great.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:55 pm to
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My last response from BREC’s director of golf:
Here’s an update on the putting greens at Webb GC.

The putting greens at Webb golf course are overseeded with rye grass during the winter months when the underlying Bermuda grass goes dormant. This year the transition from the rye grass back to the Bermuda grass has been rougher than recent years. The situation was made worse by invasive goosegrass that has slowly infiltrated the greens over the last couple of years. This goosegrass has become resistant to herbicides that used to kill it. Other golf courses in south Louisiana are also battling this goosegrass problem, this isn’t unique to Webb.

The Webb GC putting greens were aerified on 7/10. After the aerification we did some herbicide applications that appear to have been successful in eradicating most of the goosegrass. Unfortunately, killing the goosegrass left some considerable bare areas on a few greens. The greens on holes 8, 10, 14, and 16 are the most affected. Most of the greens still have good, but not complete, Bermuda grass coverage.

In the next few weeks, we will use a strong dose of nutrients along with verti-cutting and solid tine aerification to promote aggressive Bermuda grass growth in the hopes of filling in bare areas. Although hard to see, there is some grass alive in some of the areas that appear bare.

Hopefully we’ll see some strong improvement in the next couple of weeks. Depending on the speed of the improvement we may need to sod areas on a couple of greens. What happens in the next couple of weeks will determine if that’s needed.





This is good information to know.

Thank you.
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:59 pm to
are they allowing the public back on?
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
942 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:03 pm to
Decent point other than most if the courses you named are not in BR. My problem is this-BREC levies a TAX on ALL of EBR. I’m not combing through their annual report or financials but I will bet you all day that golf is their number one (by far) most used facility. Sure Oak Villa for a portion of the year, maybe Liberty Lagoon for a few months, Highland and Independence and aome others for tennis and pickleball. I just asked that the budget and updates and renovations keep pace with what the tax payers use the most!
Posted by 904
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:20 pm to
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so little of it is actually in Baton Rouge. Gonzales, Plaquemine, Denham Springs, Zachary, Baker.


This is true, but also usually the case with a lot of cities. More land on the outskirts to build semiprivate courses in suburbs/neighborhoods, while the private courses are larger contiguous blocks of land nearer to the center of town (BRCC).

It's not much different if you think about it tho. My brother lives near downtown Nashville and most courses he plays are a 25-35 minute drive away, except he's driving through mostly the rest of the city. We're just driving 30 minutes to Zachary/Placquemine etc. At the end of the day, it's about the same amount of time to get there. I certainly wouldn't mind a nicer full-length public course or two within a 10-15 min drive though.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:41 pm to
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The putting greens at Webb golf course are overseeded with rye grass during the winter months when the underlying Bermuda grass goes dormant.


For the love of God, STOP OVERSEEDING THE GREENS WITH RYEGRASS!
Posted by 904
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Decent point other than most if the courses you named are not in BR.


By this logic, Jacksonville public golf is relatively poor. But also Ponte Vedra (Sawgrass) / St. Johns / St. Augustine golf (World Golf Village) is great.

"Houston golf" is pretty limiting. Thankfully Memorial Park is in city borders (even though you have to reserve a tee time 3 weeks out). But The Woodlands golf and Sugarland golf are great. Same with Birmingham, Memphis, Nashville, etc.

Though, I do agree that I wish we had one or two more nice public courses in or just outside Baton Rouge city limits.


This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
942 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 5:02 pm to
We have them. You pay taxes on them. They aren’t maintained or kept up properly. That’s my gripe, and from what I gather most peoples.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
2955 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 5:19 pm to
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For the love of God, STOP OVERSEEDING THE GREENS WITH RYEGRASS!


Uh oh, Leblanc will be here soon to berate you on how this is wrong or what excuse the management at Webb has for doing this. And then he’ll throw in how long he’s been a superintendent and how everyone needs to shut up
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 6:26 pm
Posted by 904
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 5:21 pm to
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We have them. You pay taxes on them. They aren’t maintained or kept up properly. That’s my gripe, and from what I gather most peoples.


Fair enough.

I'm mostly responding to the statement that we are the worst city/state for golf in the country and that there's nowhere to play but Webb.
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
1911 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:08 pm to
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are they allowing the public back on?


Yes
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:50 pm to
Fennwood has best greens in the area.
If brec focused on greens and let some other things go, it would be more enjoyable. Fennwood has embraced their identity in that and it's a nice track for costs

Copper looked a month away from playable based on my aerial view monday.

Beaver just punched and sanded but they should be nice. Course was in great shape. Fwiw, I got a tee time for 30 bucks on golf now at beaver.

Webb and city park are unplayable imo. I can go to golf suites to hit at targets and not putt.


If you want a great track within 1.5 hr, drive to tamakha trails
Posted by leblanc272
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2019
175 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 9:30 am to
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Uh oh, Leblanc will be here soon to berate you on how this is wrong or what excuse the management at Webb has for doing this. And then he’ll throw in how long he’s been a superintendent and how everyone needs to shut up


I'm not going to tell you to shut up. if you want, I'll explain why they overseed greens. I'm just tired of seeing the superintnednets getting bashed constantly on this forum. I don't overseed greens anymore, because I don't have a huge POA problem yet on greens, and I don't get a lot of winter play. People complain about POA on greens, so they overseeded to provide a smoother putting surface during the winter months and spring. Unfortunaly the transition went poorly. you will probably see more courses overseeeding greens again as the POA issue becomes more widespread. the POA plants are becoming resistant to the hericides we have at our disposal and a lot of companies won't label herbicides for use on putting greens because of the liability it carries. I hope that the guys it BRec have a successful rest of the growing season, and get the greens ready for the fall golf push.
Posted by hookfin
Member since Sep 2021
92 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:05 am to
The problem is BREC is poorly run from the top down. They have created an environment of no accountability for Supers, Golf Managers, etc. I don’t blame the course superintendents. It’s above them 100%.

BREC takes in tax dollars from EBR residents and squanders it. It has been going on for Years. Shut down Webb and redo the greens again. But this time make them bigger so you can actually move the pins and give portions of the greens a break from traffic. If it’s getting too much play, raise the green fees to slow the traffic down.

Webb should be a jewel for BREC. They should have 3 of them….Santa, Beaver, & Webb.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by hookfin
Member since Sep 2021
92 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:08 am to
Leblanc

Genuine curiosity. I’ve read where you’ve stated that Poa has become immune to some of the herbicides. Why do some courses not have a problem? Like Fenwood for example. Not saying they’ve never had any in the greens, but it’s never been a problem.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:29 am to
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Webb should be jewel for BREC.


It really is a great piece of property.
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