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Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:42 pm to i am dan
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they accepted large sums of money from a terrorist adjacent group that funds terrorist activities.
What will you do when the PGA Tour accepts $1.5B from them?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:43 pm to lsupride87
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still has a job?
They are currently searching for his replacement
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:54 pm to i am dan
Dislike the golfers? Only those that I disliked before they joined LIV. Let’s be honest, LIV picked a few unlikable players.
Hate the LIV product.
Hate the LIV product.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:58 pm to DivotBreath
There are a few that have become more likable for me. Sergio, Bubba, Reed, Hatton.
There are a handful of the international guys that I’ve never really cared about either way & still don’t
There are a handful of the international guys that I’ve never really cared about either way & still don’t
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:23 pm to i am dan
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Somebody on the documentary said imagine if LIV was backed by Apple or Google.
I would welcome any company that wanted to start a tour that actually had to worry about generating a profit or breaking even at some point. LIV isn’t worried about a ROI, tried to do a hostile takeover on the PGA and paid way over market value to PGA golfers that otherwise would have never left the PGA.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:40 pm to i am dan
Don't blame any of the older guys for going, Sergio/Bubba/Poulter, etc
Don't blame the injured guy for going: Koepka
Don't blame the guy who thought the Tour was dicking over the players and who may have had a serious gambling debt to pay: Mickelson
DO blame the guy who was making a ton of money, talked about legacy shite, then left because of $$$: Rahm
Guys that are weirdos that I wish were still on the Tour: DJ, Bryson
Don't care about anyone else on LIV, including Niemann
Don't blame the injured guy for going: Koepka
Don't blame the guy who thought the Tour was dicking over the players and who may have had a serious gambling debt to pay: Mickelson
DO blame the guy who was making a ton of money, talked about legacy shite, then left because of $$$: Rahm
Guys that are weirdos that I wish were still on the Tour: DJ, Bryson
Don't care about anyone else on LIV, including Niemann
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:44 pm to BlastOff
quote:Phil really made the best choice he could. Yeah, he won at 51, but that was only the 4th win over 50 ever. No one over 51 has won anything. So, his options were: suck on the PGA Tour, play the Tour Champions, or LIV.
Don't blame the guy who thought the Tour was dicking over the players and who may have had a serious gambling debt to pay: Mickelson
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:48 pm to AlxTgr
He wanted to leave his mark on professional golf & he has obviously done that. This comment from his conversation with Shipnuck years ago:
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“They’ve been able to get by with manipulative, coercive, strong-arm tactics because we, the players, had no recourse,” Mickelson told Shipnuck in 2022.
“As nice a guy as [Monahan] comes across as, unless you have leverage, he won’t do what’s right. And the Saudi [Public Investment Fund] money has finally given us that leverage. I’m not sure I even want [the league that would become LIV Golf] to succeed, but just the idea of it is allowing us to get things done with the [PGA] Tour.”
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:04 pm to i am dan
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Anyone still kinda dislike LIV golfers?
hard to dislike someone i see play golf 3 times a year*
*I still hate Fat Reed except during the ryder cup
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:17 pm to TDTOM
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Do I hate them, no.
Do I dislike them, yes.
Do I blame them, no.
Pretty much the way I feel
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:19 pm to JimTiger72
There's that too.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:26 pm to i am dan
I just find it funny that people act like LIV is a solid product due to their political/idealogical points of few.
Can’t blame the players for taking hundreds of millions of dollars but LIV golf is freaking dumb as a thing
Can’t blame the players for taking hundreds of millions of dollars but LIV golf is freaking dumb as a thing
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:34 pm to Choupique19
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I thought the new deal that Lsupride was speaking of was the deal with PIF. But he was talkin gabout a deal with SSG, which is not related to the Saudi's.
It could be. I really have no idea what's going on in the sport these days.. I was sort of keeping up with all the LIV stuff as it was happening a few years ago, then I just got tired of it and shut it off and quit watching golf.
I'm learning more about it watching Full Swing Season 2.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 3:38 pm to i am dan
I don't dislike anyone who went to LIV for more money, if someone doubled my salary tomorrow I'd be there.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:25 pm to i am dan
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I'm thinking about accepting a upper level position with the cartel. Life changing money. I get you. You're so right and come at it so simple minded on purpose. We should all be that way.
you do realize the tour players play an annual event in Saudi Arabia and that the pga tour is currently working towards a partnership with them. Guess you will have to stop watching golf all together. Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:28 pm to TDTOM
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Do I hate them, no. Do I dislike them, yes. Do I blame them, no.
Nailed it.
I’d love to hear a guy like Rahm speak freely about LIV.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
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Total screwjob
Why didn’t he work towards that years before when the players asked for it? Instead he let the tours GC laugh in their faces.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:21 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Because inviting private equity in is almost always a bad idea long term. But the players required their money injection. Like almost all PE the players of the future will feel the pain
Why didn’t he work towards that years before when the players asked for it?
LIV has proven that pro golfers were getting paid what they were actually worth, or actually, more. Besides a select few individual golfers aren’t worth much in terms of return dollars.
Jon Rahm was one of the best and most popular golfers on the planet. He left the tour and the tour has increased its viewership after his departure. He, as an individual wasn’t worth anything to them
So, in short, private equity is going to want to actually make money on their investment. And making money on golf after injecting 1.5 billion is going to take some serious cutting of expenses because the revenue isn’t there (AKA making it shitier)
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:52 pm to i am dan
Quite the Pussy arse thread in 2025
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