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Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?
Posted by Deplorableinohio on 9/5/21 at 11:35 am00
I’ve been fighting this for 30+ years. Drives me nuts, proof, I’m asking this board for golf advice.
Seriously, any tip would be greatly appreciated. I have been known to experiment during a round also. Thanks in advance.
Seriously, any tip would be greatly appreciated. I have been known to experiment during a round also. Thanks in advance.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by dpd901 on 9/5/21 at 11:58 am to Deplorableinohio
“Reverse your loop”… I can almost guarantee you’re jerking the club to the inside on your takeaway and are probably across the line at the top. (Clubhead pointing to the right of the target line). Instead. take it back down the line or even outside, then try to make a big counterclockwise loop (assuming you’re right handed) with the clubhead. It should feel like your hands are dropping lower and closer to your body at the the start of the transition. Watch down the line videos of Sergio and Lee Trevino to see the extreme of what yours shoukd look like/what you should feel. Once you groove that, then you can try to match Rory’s takeaway and transition.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by redfish99 on 9/5/21 at 12:55 pm to Deplorableinohio
Towel
Under right arm
Bury right elbow in side
Under right arm
Bury right elbow in side
This post was edited on 9/5 at 12:56 pm
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by The Johnny Lawrence on 9/5/21 at 1:14 pm to Deplorableinohio
Vijay Singh 's water bottle drill
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by Hou_Lawyer on 9/5/21 at 1:55 pm to Deplorableinohio
Best advice I’ve ever seen in a golf book. Harvey Penick’s little red book.
“to start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body.”
Try to keep that right elbow as close as possible to your body on the downswing. This will promote in-out swing path.
“to start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body.”
Try to keep that right elbow as close as possible to your body on the downswing. This will promote in-out swing path.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by makersmark1 on 9/5/21 at 2:14 pm to Deplorableinohio
Orange whip helps with this.
Reversing loop is also a great idea.
Reversing loop is also a great idea.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by reauxl tigers on 9/5/21 at 4:26 pm to Deplorableinohio
Stick an alignment stick in the ground somewhere directly behind the ball or a little towards the inside of the ball, make an effort to strike the inside of the ball. If you ever played baseball, drive the ball to the opposite field
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by CFDoc on 9/5/21 at 4:52 pm to Deplorableinohio
I fight the same problem.
Take the club and put it in your left hand. Take the club in your left hand and stand it vertically on the ground in front of your right foot.
Then practice the downswing with only your right hand. Make sure to really feel the right hand passing inside the club still in your left hand.
Helps me every time and if I’m hitting it poorly I will do this before every shot.
Take the club and put it in your left hand. Take the club in your left hand and stand it vertically on the ground in front of your right foot.
Then practice the downswing with only your right hand. Make sure to really feel the right hand passing inside the club still in your left hand.
Helps me every time and if I’m hitting it poorly I will do this before every shot.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by SmelvinRat on 9/6/21 at 7:00 am to Deplorableinohio
Swing the club like you're trying to move a runner to third base in baseball. Swing the club to right field. It's a simple drill that will get you to approach the ball from the inside.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by BeaverPRO on 9/6/21 at 9:58 am to Deplorableinohio
Take an old club
1. Take your adress & put your butt against a flat wall (pref. Brick if possible) your back pockets need to be against the wall not your front pockets
2. Take a SLOW backswing and trace the flat surface of the wall
3. SLOWLY drop your hands to let our clubhead trace the wall on the way down. If you club looses contact with the wall...START OVER
4. Stop your downswing half way and go back to the top of your backswing and repeat 4-5 times
Repeat process
Take a few practice swing away from the wall to mimick tracing the wall at a slightly faster speed
NOTE: BeaverPro does not take responsibility if you put a hole in your wall from trying to perform this drill too fast
1. Take your adress & put your butt against a flat wall (pref. Brick if possible) your back pockets need to be against the wall not your front pockets
2. Take a SLOW backswing and trace the flat surface of the wall
3. SLOWLY drop your hands to let our clubhead trace the wall on the way down. If you club looses contact with the wall...START OVER
4. Stop your downswing half way and go back to the top of your backswing and repeat 4-5 times
Repeat process
Take a few practice swing away from the wall to mimick tracing the wall at a slightly faster speed
NOTE: BeaverPro does not take responsibility if you put a hole in your wall from trying to perform this drill too fast
This post was edited on 9/6 at 9:59 am
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re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by SamtheSham on 9/6/21 at 1:31 pm to Deplorableinohio
quote:
“to start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot
This all you need to know. Over the top is from early rotation of the shoulders at the start of the downswing while your weight is on the back side.
Reverse that sequence and you're in business. The weight shift will cause the club to drop into a flatter plane; trying to direct the arms on the downswing will work for a swing or two or a hole or too, but it doesn't address the root cause.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by OchoDedos on 9/6/21 at 3:34 pm to SamtheSham
Pay for 5-6 lessons from a Professional. If your serious about improving your game, proper instruction is invaluable.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by lsuwiseman on 9/6/21 at 9:48 pm to Deplorableinohio
Best drill & super easier to do inside.
7:30 mark of the video
LINK
A lot of great content by Mike on YouTube
7:30 mark of the video
LINK
A lot of great content by Mike on YouTube
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by stormyhog on 9/6/21 at 10:17 pm to Deplorableinohio
On downswing, think about pointing the butt of the club at the ball for as long as possible
Also when you follow through, take a step with your right foot toward your target like you are going to walk straight down the target line.
Also when you follow through, take a step with your right foot toward your target like you are going to walk straight down the target line.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by Zzyzx on 9/7/21 at 1:59 am to Deplorableinohio
Lay a baby, pet, or something really valuable just short right of the golf ball before you swing
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by Delacroix22 on 9/7/21 at 10:15 am to Zzyzx
Like some other poster said trying to guide the arms is a band aid
You need the lower body to work correctly for the upper body to follow correctly. Clay Ballard has a good video on this.
A totslly upright spine or spine pointing to the target is the issue. Once you rotate from this position the ONLY thing your right shoulder can do is swing out and throw the club over the top.
You need the spine to be slightly tilted away from the target when you start your transition. How you do this is get pressure to lead foot. People argue whether there is a lateral slide of the hips or not to get this started. My belief is there ALWAYS is a lateral slide. It just differs on how much.
When you move the hips correctly the spine tilts away from the target and allows the right shoulder to work under the plane. This promotes good contact and shaft lean and all the good stuff.
Imagine if you tried to kick a field goal or a soccer ball. You jog up to the ball, plant your foot and your spine isn’t straight up or tilted toward the goal as you kick at the ball. Spine tilted away because your hips aren’t directly under your spine they’re a little ahead.
You need the lower body to work correctly for the upper body to follow correctly. Clay Ballard has a good video on this.
A totslly upright spine or spine pointing to the target is the issue. Once you rotate from this position the ONLY thing your right shoulder can do is swing out and throw the club over the top.
You need the spine to be slightly tilted away from the target when you start your transition. How you do this is get pressure to lead foot. People argue whether there is a lateral slide of the hips or not to get this started. My belief is there ALWAYS is a lateral slide. It just differs on how much.
When you move the hips correctly the spine tilts away from the target and allows the right shoulder to work under the plane. This promotes good contact and shaft lean and all the good stuff.
Imagine if you tried to kick a field goal or a soccer ball. You jog up to the ball, plant your foot and your spine isn’t straight up or tilted toward the goal as you kick at the ball. Spine tilted away because your hips aren’t directly under your spine they’re a little ahead.
This post was edited on 9/7 at 11:28 am
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by WaWaWeeWa on 9/7/21 at 11:13 am to Delacroix22
quote:
Like some other poster said trying to guide the arms is a band aid You need the lower body to work correctly for the upper body to follow correctly. Clay Ballard has a good video on this. A totslly upright spine or spine pointing to the target is the issue. Once you rotate from this position the ONLY thing your right shoulder can do is swing out and throw the club over the top. You need the spine to be slightly tilted away from the target when you start your transition. How you do this is get pressure to lead foot. People argue whether there is a lateral slide of the hips or not to get this started. My belief is there ALWAYS is a lateral slide. It just differs on how much. When you move the hips correctly the spine tilts away from the target and allows the right shoulder to work under the plane. This promotes good contact and shaft lean and all the good stuff. Imagine if you tried to kick a field goal or a soccer ball. You jog up to the. All and your spine isn’t straight up or tilted toward the goal. It’s tilted away because your hips aren’t directly under your spine they’re a little ahead.
This is the correct idea.
You want to feel like when you start your downswing you are taking and uppercut with your right arm. This will get your spine tilt away from the target.
When your spine is tilting away from the target and your weight is shifting forward then there is no way for you to go over the top or early extend.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by Circle G on 9/9/21 at 5:22 pm to Deplorableinohio
To shallow your plane, try teeing up a 7 iron relatively high, i.e. a couple of inches, and pick it cleanly off the tee. If you hit or break the tee, your angle of attack is too steep. This will promote a more rounded swing plane.
This drill is great for learning to hit a draw and may help to eliminate your over the top move that can bleed over into other clubs in the bag once you get the feel for it.
It's a little ghetto, but I zip tie my phone to an alignment stick stuck a few inches in the ground and use the Zepp golf swing analyzer app to record swings to get a better idea of what adjustments I need to make.
This drill is great for learning to hit a draw and may help to eliminate your over the top move that can bleed over into other clubs in the bag once you get the feel for it.
It's a little ghetto, but I zip tie my phone to an alignment stick stuck a few inches in the ground and use the Zepp golf swing analyzer app to record swings to get a better idea of what adjustments I need to make.
re: Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?Posted by Mr. Blutarski on 9/10/21 at 9:23 am to Deplorableinohio
Find an area you can practice with the ball above your feet. It will help shallow your plane and it's almost impossible to come over the top with the ball above your feet.
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