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With Ninja leaving Twitch for Mixer, Microsoft is all in for next gen

Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:45 am
Posted by MaroonMonsoon
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:45 am
Twitter has been all over how this is a power play for Halo Infinite. Master Chief is even in Ninjas announcement video.

Mixer jumped from #46 on the app store to #2 overnight. Ninja has quickly gained thousands of subs as people follow him to Mixer.

Halo MCC is imminent on PC and this is their chance to put Halo back in the public spotlight again and generate hype.

It all comes down to Infinite being a great game. It has to pay off, the entire future of Xbox might rest on this one game.

God speed, 343. Don't frick this up.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:03 am to
Infinite some I'm sure, but more about the pending Halo launch on PC in general.



This could also start a new era for the streamers, they all want contracts (2 year deal on ___ for 1.5 million). Saw a video with multiple other big streamers saying they'd go wherever the money is.

Amazon could obviously just buy anyone if they want.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 4:05 am
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:12 am to
I don't think this will start a mass exodus of streamers to Mixer and Microsoft throwing bags of money at streamers, but this definitely isn't a good look for Twitch at the moment.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:29 am to
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This could also start a new era for the streamers, they all want contracts (2 year deal on ___ for 1.5 million). Saw a video with multiple other big streamers saying they'd go wherever the money is.

Amazon could obviously just buy anyone if they want


It's been happening for a while. On a recent episode of the H3H3 podcast, Ethan discusses how twitch tried to penny pinch and undercut them when they went to sign a new contract and that's why he went back to streaming on YouTube.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:36 am to
So let me get this straight. Not only did Ninja leave Twitch for Mixer, but he’s also gonna give up Fortnite to promote Halo?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:42 am to
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he’s also gonna give up Fortnite to promote Halo?


We all grow up at some point.


Also, I hear he didn't even get through the qualifiers of the big fortnite tournament. Every winner was around the 13-16 year old range. He's a fossil.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:28 am to
I doubt he's giving up fortnite anytime soon considering his fanbase is largely fortnite kids. Pretty sure he's about to play a bunch of Fortnite in a few hours on Mixer at Lollapalooza or however you spell it.

Ninja is about money and Fortnite is still king. He'll most likely be heavily involved with Halo promo and Fortnite for the time being.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 8:32 am
Posted by txbd
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:32 am to
What's cool about Mixer, especially for streamers, is that you earn "Sparks" passively which you could donate to any Mixer streamer which translates to real money. Matt Salsa (founder of Mixer) is probably the biggest AOE2 fan out there. He poached the top AOE2 player, TheViper, to Mixer about a month and a half ago. I'll be honest, I was a little skeptical at first but his viewer numbers are basically identical and the quality looks to be the same or better.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:38 am to
i've been thinking that this will cause the domino effect. i would bet money that all of ninjas fortnite friends will eventually leave. either by contract or by their own accord. i'm surprised nick eh 30 is still on youtube. he's the only one "famous" there that i know.
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:56 am to
Can someone explain to me what mixer is? I had never even heard of it until now
Posted by brucevilanch
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:58 am to
Streaming service like twitch.

quote:

I had never even heard of it until now


Sounds like their plan is working.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 9:07 am to
I wonder how many wild Twitch Prime subs are floating around now.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 9:20 am to
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Can someone explain to me what mixer is? I had never even heard of it until now


Think of Twitch, but with Microsoft in front of the name instead of Amazon.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:04 am to
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wonder how many wild Twitch Prime subs are floating around now.


This is the interesting part.

For a large number of people, Prime was just a "free" $2.50 donation per month.

Looking at some stats at least half of Ninja's subscribers were Prime.

How many of those will be reallocated to other streamers and how many will just stop watching?
Posted by DrSteveBrule
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 11:10 am to
It's only a matter of time until certain games end up doing exclusive contracts with certain streaming platforms.

Ultimately people like twitch because of the experience, chat and emotes and all of that. It will be hard for another platform to replicate that.

The same thing is going to happen with Epic vs Steam. They will have to engage in insecure business practices to get people to move. Competition is good, but if games start getting locked into certain streaming sites, then it could be bad.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 11:13 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 12:17 pm to
Does Mixer have free subs like Twitch did with Prime?

If not, that will hurt Ninja's actual paid for subs.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Not only did Ninja leave Twitch for Mixer, but he’s also gonna give up Fortnite to promote Halo?




Rumor is the deal for him is worth up to $100 million so no doubt they will expect him to promote Halo and other MS Studio games.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 12:48 pm to
I never realized how dead Mixer was. The Fortnite directory on Mixer has 73k people in it, 65k people are watching Ninja.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:21 pm to
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Does Mixer have free subs like Twitch did with Prime?

If not, that will hurt Ninja's actual paid for subs.


I don't think it does. He will surely have way less subs because of that. Especially with most of his viewers being kids and using their parents Amazon accounts.

But the 100 million and whatever insane % of money he is probably getting from subs is probably worth it x5.
Posted by MaroonMonsoon
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:31 pm to
Ninja already has 37,000 subs on mixer

Edit: it's either 37,000 or 370,000. He mentioned at the start of the stream but I can remember off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 1:37 pm
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