re: Tears of the Kingdom Discussion Thread **NO SPOILERS**

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I do see the obvious parallels between the two titles, but I’m having a blast. The new abilities and the changes to the map/traversal just work. ultrahand makes the shrines much more fun to play. More room for creativity.

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Build a new world or fully expand and perfect the existing one? God of War 2 went this way and it worked out. I think we see this more going forward.

Just have to be careful what you wish for. It’s one thing to successfully iterate on a formula that shares connective tissue with a prior entry. It’s something else to copy paste lazily. Something tells me if this were to become a trend, we’d see far more of the latter.

I am all for a successful iterative formula running for a decade or longer, provided it’s innovative. I think fromsoft souls formula is a good example of retreading ground while keeping things fresh.

ETA: and I get the critique of the open world with botw/tears. I’m a harsh critic of open world due to “emptiness”. I do think Nintendo does a good job of allowing the player to use the tools given to manipulate the environment in a way that’s more fun than a ubisoft style open world. I will probably still experience open world fatigue but it’s done better here, at least.

a good example of this done well is Jedi Survivor. Yes, they designed new planets for the 2nd game, but generally speaking the same concepts are all there, but they expanded on them beautifully by adding new enemy types and new ways to traverse the areas. They didn't try and reinvent the wheel but instead added to what already worked very well.

I didn't explore enough (or look up) to see another set of islands above the shrine so I had no chance of seeing it.

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Also found the updated Champion’s Tunic and got some Hylian pants. So now Link doesn’t look like an a-hole running around with a top and no pants in the freezing cold

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I'm such a glamour player. I hate how he looks now. Give me some good looking gear, please

I just bought new clothes at the camp store at the Hyrule village ruins where saucy vixen Purah's telescope is.

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It was right in front of me the whole time and I never thought for a second it was a door

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I got really lucky on that one. I was losing my mind and couldn’t figure it out for 10 minutes. Then I saw a space between them and then noticed the handles and thought “Hmm… let me see if I can open this”.

If I hadn’t noticed that crack I would have wandered around for an hour or more

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I was the opposite, I found the Greek looking shorts and sandals, then the cold weather pants, before I even found a shirt (that I bought). My arse was running around Hyrule shirtless in the snow like a member of the Bills Mafia

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Same here. Still don't have a shirt.

I am embarrassed to admit how long it took me to complete a wind shrine on my way to the Rito area. I kept trying to balance the hot air baloon heat with a torch and was constantly setting the wooden board beneath me on fire. It wasn't until I realized I was supposed to use the Zonai fire head things that I finally got it done.

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I found the Greek looking shorts and sandals, then the cold weather pants, before I even found a shirt (that I bought). My arse was running around Hyrule shirtless in the snow like a member of the Bills Mafia

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There was a shirt somewhere on the starting sky islands? If so, I never found it.

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There was a shirt somewhere on the starting sky islands? If so, I never found it.

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I think so, all the preview and sneak peeks of them playing the great sky island had him wearing something that matches the shorts and sandals. But I never found it either