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re: PS5 late 2018/early 2019 with Zen+Navi architecture

Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:52 pm to

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The new console refresh cycle is about every 3 years now.


That's a straight stupid business plan. It completely ignores how Sega fricked themselves by going from Genesis to Sega CD to 32X to Saturn to Dreamcast in a 10 year span.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:57 pm to
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They are using that quote as proof of them predicting the ps4 pro


That reminds me of when Micheal Pachter said from nearly the moment it was released that Wii sales would die unless an HD model was released and then claimed that the WiiU was proof Nintendo listened to him.
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 1:40 pm to
I feel like Rumor: should be added to the title. This has been largely debunked but would hate to see people actually think that PS5 is releasing this year.
Posted by BananaManCan
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:03 pm to
You're an idiot.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:33 pm to
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That's a straight stupid business plan. It completely ignores how Sega fricked themselves by going from Genesis to Sega CD to 32X to Saturn to Dreamcast in a 10 year span.



Technology also advances a LOT faster now than back then, it's not like the current cycle hasn't been successful.

PS4 drops, 2.5 years later a refresh with added horsepower largely dictated by the advancement of 4K technology drops and is also successful.

PS5 drops another 3-4 years later with full native 4K gaming and once again top tier specs.

PS5 Pro refresh another 3-4 years later for who knows, 8K gaming?

Point is, all just depends where the tech goes and how quickly. They want to stay out in front/on time instead of being years and years behind like they always used to be.

It's hard to look at an OG PS4/Xbone at this point, 720p gaming with 6+ year old tech inside while 1080p was already beyond mainstream. Now we are seeing 4K adoption rates at 40%+ and climbing rapidly so you get a refresh of both consoles geared solely at 4K. We would have never seen that in the past.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Technology also advances a LOT faster now than back then, it's not like the current cycle hasn't been successful. 

Well advancement is relative to the desired output.

Also all the fab space is scheduled out nearly to the end of 2018. We have talked about this for months.
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Point is, all just depends where the tech goes and how quickly. They want to stay out in front/on time instead of being years and years behind like they always used to be. 

So Sony wants to increase the frequency it spends huge amounts of capital required to bring a new product into a market where the PS is not losing product share even after the competition's refresh?

Interesting.
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Now we are seeing 4K adoption rates at 40%+ and climbing rapidly so you get a refresh of both consoles geared solely at 4K. We would have never seen that in the past.

And? This does not translate to protential sales PS5 sales. The engines aren't ready for a true upgrade. This early it will be nothing more than locking output to 2160 @ 60fps.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:17 pm to
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UltimateHog


the legend
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:23 pm to
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So Sony wants to increase the frequency it spends huge amounts of capital required to bring a new product into a market where the PS is not losing product share even after the competition's refresh?



Within a couple of years? Obviously.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:31 pm to
Then why you posted this stupid fckking article?

Seems like you are changing your narrative midstream.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:32 pm to
Why not? It was an extremely popular article that made the rounds of every major website. The frick?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:35 pm to
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And? This does not translate to protential sales PS5 sales. The engines aren't ready for a true upgrade. This early it will be nothing more than locking output to 2160 @ 60fps.



Which no console can do? Or PC for that matter. Again, it's about getting out in front instead of being years behind as in the past.

It's really not that hard to understand, stick to PC's maybe my dude.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:35 pm to
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Why not? It was an extremely popular article that made the rounds of every major website. The frick? ?


But not legit places.

I saw it on a few forums but man one look at the specs and timeframe screams BS. It only takes a little knowledge on the state of the market to call this clickbait.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:36 pm to
Yes, it stirred up a lot even at legit places which in return had major sites backchecking and getting opinions of other "insiders".

It has brought about the most discussion on the PS5 to date.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:37 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:40 pm to
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It's really not that hard to understand, stick to PC's maybe my dude

I tell you this monthly.

You really need to educate yourself. Not only do you lack technical and even working knowledge of these processes, but seem to not understand the market.

Really no disrespect. You wouldn't get into arguments with everyone on a forum if you understood the facts and properly applied them in discussions.
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It has brought about the most discussion on the PS5 to date

And? It is clickbait.

Most ppl do not understand the development required for the tech, state of the fabs and the other component issues with flash.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:42 pm to
Don't get upset, PC is your thing, I'm just saying stick to that. No disrespect, you clearly don't know much about consoles.

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You wouldn't get into arguments with everyone on a forum

Well this isn't true. See the previous console releases where it was nothing but arguments and I was dead on accurate about almost everything.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Devious
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:43 pm to
That feels like a boom. Is that a boom? I think it's a boom.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:45 pm to
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Don't get upset, PC is your thing, I'm just saying stick to that. No disrespect, you clearly don't know much about consoles.

What a dumb statement.
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Well this isn't true. See the previous console releases where it was nothing but arguments and I was dead on accurate about almost everything

That was a fanboy war. How is this relative?

Everyone was dead on for the PS4 release. You are seeing confirmation where only ignorance was present. It was a fanboy war. We all knew the specs of both consoles prior to release. The two sides experienced blindness with bias.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:46 pm to
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That feels like a boom. Is that a boom? I think it's a boom.

Watch out for the UH down votes!
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29155 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:47 pm to
Why do you waste so much energy downvoting on a forum? It's weird.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65800 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:47 pm to
To trigger you because you always bring it up.
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