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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:59 pm to
It makes me want a new CPU/mobo combo, but it would be the most pointless upgrade for me. If I got a 4790K, it would be marginally faster at best, and only if I do fairly well in the silicone lottery. If I go socket 2011-3, that means a $250+ motherboard and overpriced slower DDR4.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:03 pm to
I can't wait to bench mark it.

The case and cooler are in. I need to format my SSD for a fresh install. Can you post a link for the sleeve extenders you use, I am sure I am going to need to get some due to the case size and PSU cord length?
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:59 pm to
If you get extensions, you'll need:

One of these


One of these:


And four of these:




Now, with the cards you got, you only need 6-pin connectors. However, I am assuming your PSU uses all 6+2-pin connectors, or perhaps has 2 6-pins and 2 6+2-pins? If you ever upgrade your cards to something that draws more power, you'll be glad you have the 8-pin extensions. In the mean time, you can tuck the 2-pin part away with the rest of your cables. I'd recommend you just match extenders with PCI-e cable type. I am pretty sure your PSU is all 6+2-pin though. If not, I'll link you to the 6-pin extensions.

All of those will put you at about $60 through Amazon Prime. I wouldn't worry about other power cables (SATA and molex), because if you do your wire management correctly those shouldn't be visible. The exception being if you have an optical drive, the the SATA power might be slightly visible.

Granted, these are the absolute best extension cables you can buy. They use premium sleeving that's more durable and clothlike, and the other brands are honestly not much cheaper. When I first got extension cables a year ago, I made the mistake of mixing and matching brands. First I ordered some Rosewill and NZXT cables because both brands looked similar. Specifically, I ordered 1 NZXT 24-pin and 2 8-pin CPU cables, and 4 rosewill PCIe cables. The Rosewills ended up being pure shite so I returned them, but I was unable to find any NZXT PCIe cables in stock in black, so I ordered the Silverstone for a dollar or two more. Turned out the Silverstones were highly superior. They also looked different because of the sleeving material. The NZXT sleeving was more plastic-like and shiny compared to the silverstone. I ended up using them all though, and I guess it only really bothered me since nobody else ever pointed it out. But it's pretty obvious if you know to look for it:



When I did some revisions to my build last month, I went ahead and ordered silverstone cables to replace the 8-pin and 24-pin NZXTs.



The difference is subtle in the photo since they don't get as much exposure to the lighting as the PCIe cables, but it calmed my OCD at least.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:12 pm to
Ok I was right the card is one 8 pin connection for power LINK The 9750 was two 6 pins for power so that eliminates two cables from the equation. I will order the extenders, I wish I would have done it first so that I don't have to redo things.

I am running a SSD and a HDD do I need two 1 x 8-Pin to EPS12V 8-Pin Connectors?
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

It makes me want a new CPU/mobo combo, but it would be the most pointless upgrade for me. If I got a 4790K, it would be marginally faster at best, and only if I do fairly well in the silicone lottery. If I go socket 2011-3, that means a $250+ motherboard and overpriced slower DDR4.


Yeah I am pretty much in the same position. 980s just not enough bang for the buck to replace the Ti's. Kinda want a better cooler and put my Ti's on blocks, but just don't have the want to do it right now, it runs cool as is and I run everything on ultra with not too many hiccups.

I just kinda really want to tinker with new parts. Since I got out of the christmas lights to music game, I am itching for an electronics project this time of year.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by HeavyCore
Member since Sep 2012
2552 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:51 pm to
So, I just won a Intel i7 4790 processor. Wasn't ecpecting it, but now that I have it I might as well build something with it. I've got about $1200 to spend. Any specific motherboard recommendations? I understand these require a z97 or z87.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:03 pm to
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I just won a Intel i7 4790 processor.


Wow nice. If you look at the build he put together for me here and if you take out the 4790, liquid cooling, monitor,and one of the 970's you will be under budget with room for a PSU
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

I am running a SSD and a HDD do I need two 1 x 8-Pin to EPS12V 8-Pin Connectors?



No, your motherboard only has a connection for one. See the top left corner of your motherboard. This cable doesn't have anything to do with your storage drives. This is purely to power the CPU. My motherboard has two 8-pin connections there, theoretically to add stability by providing even more power to the CPU when overclocking, but I believe it's likely 100% unnecessary. I'm using it anyway because I can, but in your case, you only have one connector there anyway.

Your motherboard:



My motherboard:
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:17 pm to
Gotcha, I ordered what you suggested and with prime it will be here quick, I should just wait and build next week but I'm too impatient.
Posted by HeavyCore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:28 pm to
Nice. What are you looking to do with that monster?
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:29 pm to
Play Witcher 3 on Ultra.

This is my move into 1440 gaming and my last build was about 3 years ago. I hope to not have to touch this system for quite some time.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I hope to not have to touch this system for quite some time.



Good luck with that, you have the knack now.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56439 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:00 pm to
Yeah, the 980 in my use is a card which works great for SFF builds. Its the power of a 780 Ti without thermal issues. The extra VRAM is also great for those open world games requiring over 3072MB now.

I just kept my main rig with SLi 780 Tis and put the one 980 that had been purchased in my livingroom SteamBox.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:12 pm to
They are definitely perfect steambox cards within the heat and power constraints. With the cost of waterblocks bringing the pair to $1400, probably not the best of upgrades from a 780 Ti. They were the perfect pair of cards for my entry into Team Green after many years of AMD.

I've no complaints about them so far, except they are not nearly as overclock-friendly as AMD out of the box, but that was fixed with a bios mod. Still, Boost 2.0 sucks.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19382 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:31 pm to
Holy shite. I feel like I'm finally back into civilization. I finally got my nexus back from Google. I felt virtually useless with that POS iPhone 4 I had to use
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:21 pm to
That cooler was a bitch to install, at this point I am going to be surprised it this thing even boots.

Posted by Devious
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:48 pm to
I hope your cable management turns out a little better this time
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27412 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:49 pm to
man that looks awesome
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:44 pm to
wow success on the 1st try, i need to cancel the extender order. I can't get it to recognize the new HDD though gonna have to figure that out.

ILikeLSUToo, I can save a cable by using the 2nd 6+2 connector for the 2nd card, but should I run another cable for the 2nd card or is it fine to run both off of the same power cable?

This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

I can't get it to recognize the new HDD though gonna have to figure that out.


If it's new, you need to go in windows disk management and format it. Then it'll recognize it.

quote:

I can save a cable by using the 2nd 6+2 connector for the 2nd card, but should I run another cable for the 2nd card or is it fine to run both off of the same power cable?


Fine to run both off the same cable, especially with a single-rail PSU like yours.

EDIT: Also, it looks like your PSU is upside down. Ideally you want it pulling air from the outside instead of the hot air in your case generated by your two GPUs right above. The 550D has a removable filter on the bottom vent.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 10:39 pm
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