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Posted on 8/24/13 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 8:27 pm to
Therapy.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 8:42 pm to
Person I feel bad for the most is my wife. She has to deal with me
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 8:54 pm to
Have my core clock at 1150. It's 1050 stock. Going for 1225 next. Wonder how far I can push the memory clock. It's 1500 stock on this card

LINK

Now, I need to get my 8350 at a good stable clock and I can break 11K I think.

ETA: 1225 was too much of a jump

Going back down to 1200 as that seems to be the norm for this card on the net
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 8:57 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 9:37 pm to
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That's exactly how my ram shows up. We need to some investigating to see if the systemmark software misreads AMD ram


I missed this post while browsing on my phone, but now I'm home.

It does "misread it," and that's all it does. It does not downclock your RAM. The speed you set in the bios is the speed it's running at. The reason it does that is because 1333 (aka 667) is the standard speed for DDR3. The modules are sold based on what they've been proven by the manufacturer to run at on a test bed. That's why RAM specs nearly always need to be set manually in the bios. The motherboard is seeing a RAM module's Joint Electron Device Engineering Council (JEDEC) specifications by default. There does exist JEDEC specs for higher clocked modules, but it's far cheaper to fabricate 1333 MHz modules and bin them at various speeds, voltages, and timings, so that's what you're getting with most memory you buy. Kind of like if Intel were to sell Haswell i5-4670k's at different price points. Like "4570k, 1.2v, 4.6GHz" for $259, and a "1.25v, 4.4GHz" for $229" and so on, and include cooling solutions that keep each of those chips at acceptable temperatures.

So basically, SystemMark or whatever it is just sees the modules for what they are by fabrication standards. It has no bearing on the score. It's just buggy software. I've noticed that it sometimes doesn't recognize when a CPU is overclocked either, or it reports video card clocks at their low power state instead of their actual working frequencies.

EDIT: Futuremark software doesn't understand that I have my modules at 2133Mhz either: LINK
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 9:48 pm
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15421 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:13 pm to
You just have to get to the point where you don't have anticipatory anxiety. I still deal with that sometimes, because if you go into a situation thinking you will get anxious, you definitely will. Gotta find a place where you fill your head with others thoughts.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29250 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:16 pm to
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drink.


Probably the worst solution.



I subscribe to that school of though as well
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:49 pm to
yep, I'm a man. Thus I drink.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40104 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:50 pm to
I'M DRUNK!

Eta: i'm in a bar.
This post was edited on 8/24/13 at 10:57 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 10:57 pm to
Looks like I need to take off my CPU cooler tomorrow and reapply thermal paste
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
19110 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:01 pm to
sorry to hear the 660 isn't performing up to your standards. I never really pushed it to the limits.

I'll e-mail you about the ssd if you're still interested.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:03 pm to
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Looks like I need to take off my CPU cooler tomorrow and reapply thermal paste


So it was a heat issue?
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
19110 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:08 pm to
as stout said I believe the last price I put on it was 240 (without shipping and paypal fees)

I'll even give you my old 6 core AMD 2.8 ghz, that i'm sure is broken but you can have it just to frick around with.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:11 pm to
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So it was a heat issue?



I hit 52 within like 40 seconds of running Prime 95 at 4.4 and 1.375 volts


Poncho, that 660 is perfect for what I will use it for. I appreciate it truly. Also, let me think on that SSD. I think I need a 2TB HDD more than anything right now.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:31 pm to
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Now, I need to get my 8350 at a good stable clock and I can break 11K I think.

You should be able.

Bruce and I are hitting mid 10k w/ 7950s. You got this man!
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19390 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

I hit 52 within like 40 seconds of running Prime 95 at 4.4 and 1.375 volts


Is 52 considered hot for AMD?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 11:57 pm to
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Is 52 considered hot for AMD?


Apparently so. I just started looking up some info about it. I'm embarrassed that I never knew that, but the thermal thresholds for those chips are low as frick.

It throttles approaching 70. But it scales down appropriately. (i.e., a hyper 212 evo is going to keep it in the 40s at load).
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181955 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:17 am to
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Bruce and I are hitting mid 10k w/ 7950s. You got this man!



You and Bruce also have twice the cooling area on your 8350s than what I have. At least I know Bruce does. I would be happy with good temps at 4.6 on mine.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:27 am to
Streaming HL2 playthrough now. This will be my first time playing in 8yrs. The difference is that i'm using the Cinematic 13 Mod. Really brings this game back to life.

LINK
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:39 am to
I have an 8320.. sorry couldn't step up to the big leagues.

ETA:
It is on a H100i.. plus on top my desk seating in an open test bench.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 12:40 am
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:02 am to
quote:

Is 52 considered hot for AMD?



62c is the absolute ceiling for the fx chips. Same goes for your 955. Yeah it is strange that it's so low with such high voltages we use.
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