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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:43 am to SaintEB
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:43 am to SaintEB
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The main concern is the heatsinks/rads. I'm worried that the GPU rads have a small buildup and the CPU cooler rads have some. Can I canned air blow those out?
You can absolutely just blow those out. The warnings against compressed air are primarily for motherboards, for two reasons: 1. They can create condensation which can cause corrosion and shorts and 2. If you aren’t careful, you can use too much pressure too close to the board and damage a small component.
For rads, use compressed air with reckless abandon. Make sure you go outside first, as they might have more dust than you think, and cleaning up the resulting mess is annoying.
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:08 pm to Joshjrn
Just got everything back up and running. Is 40-45C idle ok? I played a couple of games of COD on extreme setting and it never got over 70C at like 55W (per the Riva app overlay). I'll go back and look at our discord on the undervolting on the 4080. I'll check the internet for some settings.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:14 pm to SaintEB
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Is 40-45C idle ok?
My 4090 idles at like 40 C… as long as you don’t see your GPU temps get up into the 90s, you’re ok.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:22 pm to SaintEB
“Idle” temps for GPUs are a bit misleading because cooling is variable, unlike CPUs which generally have fairly static cooling. The same GPU can have wildly different idle temps depending on fan curve, zero rpm tolerance, etc. Unless you’re hearing significant fan ramp up during low stress situations, it’s nothing to concern yourself with.
Eta: I just noticed you said 55w. That’s either a typo or a massive misread.
Eta: I just noticed you said 55w. That’s either a typo or a massive misread.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:33 pm to Joshjrn
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“Idle” temps for GPUs are a bit misleading because cooling is variable, unlike CPUs which generally have fairly static cooling. The same GPU can have wildly different idle temps depending on fan curve, zero rpm tolerance, etc. Unless you’re hearing significant fan ramp up during low stress situations, it’s nothing to concern yourself with.
Eta: I just noticed you said 55w. That’s either a typo or a massive misread.
Probably my lack of clarity.
That post was about my CPU - 7800X3D. Not the GPU
I will have to pay more attention to the GPU but I was at 90%VRAM, I wanna say never crept over 60-65C during COD and 220W or so, but don't quote me.
I just ran Timespy and CPU never crossed 70C.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:38 pm to SaintEB
Also, I had an aftermarket heatsink on my M.2 SSD that just wouldn't come off. I was scared to break the SSD. I just installed it in the last slot that the MB doesn't have a stock plate for. Its a PCIE4x4 so its ok, it just kinda sucked that the heatsink wouldn't come off. Any tips?
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:38 pm to SaintEB
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That post was about my CPU - 7800X3D.
Those CPUs are built to run over 90 C. The 7800x3d also runs way cooler in comparison to Intel CPUs… if you aren’t even cracking 70 with Timespy running you have plenty of cooling.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:59 pm to SaintEB
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it just kinda sucked that the heatsink wouldn't come off. Any tips?
Warm it up with a hair dryer and gently twist.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 7:41 am to UltimateHog
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Warm it up with a hair dryer and gently twist.
Thanks. I may just leave it alone as its working fine and I don't "need" to move it.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:48 am to SaintEB
I would further emphasize the words “warm” and “gentle”. If you use something like a blow dryer, keep it far away. But there’s actually a safer way: run a few loops of an SSD benchmark to get the chips nice and hot, and like UH said, gently twist. The damage comes from pulling straight up and detaching the chips, same as with a CPU cooler. Just apply light, then slowly increasing, steady lateral pressure. If you’ve warmed up the chips enough, you should start feeling it slide. Once that “seal” is broken, it should come right off.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 9:09 am to Joshjrn
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I would further emphasize the words “warm” and “gentle”. If you use something like a blow dryer, keep it far away. But there’s actually a safer way: run a few loops of an SSD benchmark to get the chips nice and hot, and like UH said, gently twist. The damage comes from pulling straight up and detaching the chips, same as with a CPU cooler. Just apply light, then slowly increasing, steady lateral pressure. If you’ve warmed up the chips enough, you should start feeling it slide. Once that “seal” is broken, it should come right off.
Thanks. I'll definitely keep this in mind.
Any tips for setting up my CPU or things to look for in the AMD world? It was taking a long time to boot, but once updated bios, its pretty fast. It was sitting in bios for 61s (per task manager) but now its 12s. As for just navigating around (browsers, programs, loading a couple of games last night) Its definitely seems snappier than my 11900K. I'm gonna run some Cyberpunk tonight or tomorrow. I have a new PSU and a 3080 to give my kid's rig, and i'm building another rig with my spare board and CPU for my youngest. His case comes in today.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 9:50 am to SaintEB
Not really. AMD chips in general, and the x3D chips in particular, are kind of set it and forget not. Not really much juice left worth the squeeze as far as UV, OC, etc. They may give you synthetic benchmark bumps, but are unlikely to give you much, if anything, in real world performance.
Just make sure you’ve downloaded and installed the individual chipset drivers from your motherboard website, including Ethernet, etc.
Just make sure you’ve downloaded and installed the individual chipset drivers from your motherboard website, including Ethernet, etc.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:14 am to Joshjrn
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Just make sure you’ve downloaded and installed the individual chipset drivers from your motherboard website, including Ethernet, etc.
Yep. I downloaded those prior and installed once the PC booted. That's why the restart was such a pain before I did bios update. Set and forget sounds great. That's my style, lol. Not much use, for me, for synthetic benchmark bumps. I just want a stable experience.
I also made sure to buy AMD Expo compatible RAM. If thats just a marketing ploy, then they got me. But my RAM went from 4800 to 6000 once enabled in bios. Am I really getting 6000?
ETA: I read that it doesn't make that big a difference in gaming (RAM speeds).
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:22 am to SaintEB
Download ZenTimings. It will tell you every bit of anything your ram is doing.
And no, your ram speed won’t matter much, especially with an x3D chip, but it’s not going to hurt anything, either.
And no, your ram speed won’t matter much, especially with an x3D chip, but it’s not going to hurt anything, either.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/3/24 at 5:43 pm to Joshjrn
I'm lucky to live near a Microcenter and got that 7800X3D bundle. Now that I have the current best gaming CPU I'm awfully tempted to get a 4090. 
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:47 pm to GoGators1995
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Now that I have the current best gaming CPU I'm awfully tempted to get a 4090.
You need a proper monitor to make use of a 4090 if you don’t already have one… if it makes you less likely to spend more money
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:53 pm to LSUGent
Well the cheapest one right now is still $200 above MSRP. And giving Nvidia $1800 right now is tough to swallow.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:33 pm to Joshjrn
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Download ZenTimings. It will tell you every bit of anything your ram is doing.
And no, your ram speed won’t matter much, especially with an x3D chip, but it’s not going to hurt anything, either.
I may do this. I know it won't make a huge difference, but my RAM goes back to 4800 on restart. It won't stay at 6000. I'm not that concerned about it, but I wonder if it has something to do with the 7800x3d being compatible up to 5200. Although, i saw some on reddit say they have been stable at 6000, so who knows.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:24 pm to SaintEB
What's your mobo?
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:26 pm to GoGators1995
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What's your mobo?
MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk.
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