re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

I'll take your word for the "normal", as I generally don't track MF and CBA to go back and look

ETA because I missed this the first time through: Week 2 is actually the 695 number. Week 1 sales were posted a while back. Just fyi.

If I had to guess, it's due to the odd bit of cannibalization we're seeing from the 4070ti. Sales for the 4070ti had tanked, like, double digit sales in a week tanked. Since the 4070's release, sales for the 4070ti have surged significantly. I think a lot of people held off from buying the 4070ti, planning to buy a 4070 for cheaper. Then, once it was released, they shifted back to the 4070ti for the reason a lot of reviewers have been whining about: the performance gap between them is fricking huge. So people are moving back up market for the extra performance they didn't think they would have to give up if they bought a 4070.

I was watching... I think Jayztwocents? in the last few days, and he articulated the specifics of something I've brought up a few times, which is the massive gaps in performance in the RTX 4000 series lineup that simply didn't exist in the 3000 series. More specifically, he pointed out that the gap in performance between the 4070 and the 4070ti, which he said was about 25%, is roughly the same as the gap in performance between the 3070 and the 3090. That's fricking obscene, and it speaks to the artificial segmentation Nvidia is forcing this generation, both by shifting down in die per segment and artificially limiting power limits.

I'm hoping that once AMD clears through the 6000 series inventory it's clearly trying to move, it shifts to really pressing for mind and marketshare for the 7000 series.

Yup. It's something I see people get pretty salty about on Reddit sometimes. This cycle has also been a bit weird, because unlike historically where the US has the best prices, period, we've seen some odd sales, like the 4070 getting a 15% reduction in, what was it, fricking Poland?

Maybe. I also could have misheard

Though point still stands

A bit hyperbolic, but not much. Per that chart (to save us all some effort), the percentage shifts in raw addition are:

3070 to 3070ti - 5%
3070 to 3080 - 21%
3070 to 3090 - 33%

By comparison:

4070 to 4070ti = 21%
4070 to 4080 = 46%
4070 to 4090 = 71%

That’s a pretty stark difference.

Eta: Comparison at 1440p

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If I was going to put a computer in a room with a pretty high ambient temp, let's say 85F, would an nh-d14 or a nice CLC give the best performance? Would it really matter

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fricking hell, maybe just spend a bit more money and install a mini-split for the room?

Yeah. You need to fricking cool that room. Ambient starting at 80+ is a death kell for oc hardware

Alright, jokes aside, remind me what chip it is and what your usage case is. Also, what case you plan to use.

Started with the 3900x and now I have the 5800x3D so I don't think so. I just think destiny is relatively optimized graphically.

The engine itself is literally fricking spaghetti tho.

It's a bitter pill to swallow on price, but the 4090 is really the only true "generational leap" of this gpu generation. I have a hard time blaming anyone who pulls the trigger on it. Enjoy

Found a good deal on a 12900k for $200. Now time to find a mobo with onboard thunderbolt. Wish PCPartPicker had a filter for it