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Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:41 am to Joshjrn
Why? It's fun to see how my components stack up to the same ones.
I already know it's garbage for gaming.
I already know it's garbage for gaming.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:35 am to hoojy
It’s mostly garbage for everything else too 
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:46 am to boXerrumble
My opinion on all of the recent Nvidia and AMD released/announcements: they all suck arse from the perspective of price to performance compared to what you can get last gen cards for these days; don't buy them.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 8:48 am to Joshjrn
The only argument I can see for the 4060ti is if you are building or upgrading a brand new SFF PC and you want the 3060ti performance but care a ton about low-power consumption.
Other than that... yikes...
And I still have a 2070 Super in my SFF pc... and I ain't upgrading any time soon.
Maybe AMD surprises us all and the 7700XT/7800XT are magically much better.
Other than that... yikes...
And I still have a 2070 Super in my SFF pc... and I ain't upgrading any time soon.
Maybe AMD surprises us all and the 7700XT/7800XT are magically much better.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:37 pm to boXerrumble
7600 dead on arrival
Just saw hardware unboxed review...it's a 6650 XT (about 4-5% faster) for basically the same price ($270 for 7600 vs. $280 for 6650 XT)
You can get 6650 XT's for $280 right now brand new, which with this 7600 release will probably put them down to $250-ish pretty quick...which really would make the 7600 utterly pointless. Same 8 GB of VRAM, very similar performance. They said it should be a $250 maximum product and ideally would be priced at $230 (they also think the 4060 Ti 8 GB is horrifically overpriced and should be $300).
They mentioned originally they did the review the price of the 7600 was supposed to be $300 which they gave really negative feedback on, AMD decided to change price a week before down to $270 which they said is at least taking feedback but still not doing enough with the price. For $30 less ($250) it at least would make sense against the 6650 XT if priced at $280.
Edit - woof, already seeing 6650 XT's for $240-$260 now on pcpart picker. That $270 price for the 7600 going to have to come down fast.
Just saw hardware unboxed review...it's a 6650 XT (about 4-5% faster) for basically the same price ($270 for 7600 vs. $280 for 6650 XT)
You can get 6650 XT's for $280 right now brand new, which with this 7600 release will probably put them down to $250-ish pretty quick...which really would make the 7600 utterly pointless. Same 8 GB of VRAM, very similar performance. They said it should be a $250 maximum product and ideally would be priced at $230 (they also think the 4060 Ti 8 GB is horrifically overpriced and should be $300).
They mentioned originally they did the review the price of the 7600 was supposed to be $300 which they gave really negative feedback on, AMD decided to change price a week before down to $270 which they said is at least taking feedback but still not doing enough with the price. For $30 less ($250) it at least would make sense against the 6650 XT if priced at $280.
Edit - woof, already seeing 6650 XT's for $240-$260 now on pcpart picker. That $270 price for the 7600 going to have to come down fast.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:50 am to thunderbird1100
UH wishing he had a piece of the NVDA pie right now 
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:58 am to bluebarracuda
Speaking of UH, I wonder if he ever pulled the trigger on that build, or if he’s still waiting like eight months later for a PCIe Gen 5 NVME for reasons I still can’t really understand
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:52 pm to bluebarracuda
Not really.
Nvidia gaming division down 38% is what I care about. Tells us people aren't buying and that's a good thing.
Nvidia gaming division down 38% is what I care about. Tells us people aren't buying and that's a good thing.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:08 pm to UltimateHog
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Not really. Nvidia gaming division down 38% is what I care about. Tells us people aren't buying and that's a good thing.
And AMD gaming is down 5% this quarter. Obviously no where near as big of a drop as Nvidia, but it means the people who aren’t buying Nvidia also aren’t switching over and buying AMD. They simply aren’t buying.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:09 pm to UltimateHog
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I'm grabbing the MSI Spatium 570 and my cart should then be complete. It's launching next week at computex.
Remind me what your usage case is again?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:15 pm to Joshjrn
Gaming, photo and video editing, website design.
I run my own cannabis business so flower shots for social media and sales as well as through my website for clones and seeds.
I run my own cannabis business so flower shots for social media and sales as well as through my website for clones and seeds.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:23 pm to UltimateHog
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photo and video editing
Ok, that makes more sense, as that’s basically the only usage case in which Gen 5 NVME matter at all. I genuinely kept scratching my head as to why you kept putting off your build to hold out for a component that would have functionally zero benefit in gaming, or essentially anything else, over a currently available, and significantly cheaper, high quality Gen 4 drive
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:25 pm to Joshjrn
I didn't put it off just for that, but it was part of it for sure.
As of now I'm just getting a 7700X too non 3D.
As of now I'm just getting a 7700X too non 3D.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:29 pm to UltimateHog
I remember you were originally eyeing a 5900x3d (which has kinda turned into a shitty release), but why the move completely off of the x3d line?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:32 pm to Joshjrn
I'll have to check more benchmarks but it doesn't seem worth it as my gaming time has dwindled significantly.
I'd rather just get on am5 and upgrade to 3D down the road maybe 8 series.
I'd rather just get on am5 and upgrade to 3D down the road maybe 8 series.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:48 pm to UltimateHog
If you're not gaming much, then yeah, the non 3d parts make more sense, as they can run higher voltage and higher clocks.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:54 pm to Joshjrn
Yep that's what I was thinking. Just get on am5 for now.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:13 pm to UltimateHog
With the recent struggles the x3d line has had, I'm feeling good about holding off from being an early adopter of this chipset, as my 5800x has been doing just fine for what I'm asking it to do. But I'm definitely looking forward to jumping into a 700 series board and an 8800x3d chip in the next twelve months or so.
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