re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

First leaked benchmarks (embargo doesn't lift for another few days) have come out, and results are a bit mixed: LINK

Both the XT and XTX perform as well or better than the 4080 in Fire Strike (DX 11), but both lag behind a bit in Time Spy (DX 12). Though there are some slight oddities in the number scaling, so I'm curious to see more legit benchmark runs. And obviously everyone expects the 4080 to blow both cards away in raytraced performance, but we'll have to wait on that as well.

My current reaction is that neither card is priced particularly excitingly. They are both priced marginally better than the 4080 (taking into consideration the 4080's expected far better raytraced performance), but the market has already spoken quite clearly that it considers the 4080's pricing to be utter bullshite. And considering all three cards significantly lag behind the 4090, which doesn't even use the entire die and is likely to be significantly supplanted later in the cycle by a TI variant, all of the releases thus far this cycle have been a bit meh for me. Great performance, but pricing is just fricked. Team Red's pricing is a little less fricked, but still fricked, in my opinion.

Unless reviewer benchmarks tell a markedly different story, I'll likely just stick with my 3080 for a while longer and re-evaluate when the cycle has a refresh at some point.

Caveat: this is coming from the perspective of someone who already has a fully built system and would be considering an upgrade. If you're building new, there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these cards beyond pricing being shitty. If I had to build now, I would likely do one of the 5800x3d/6950XT bundles as the best price to performance ratio right now on GPUs. But if you don't mind spending a few hundred extra and getting a bit worse frame per dollar in order to get better performance, there's nothing wrong with that position, either.

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Sunday update.

Fan came in. Took brackets off old fan and installed this one on the cooler. Seems to run wonderfully. I'm monitoring my temps which seem fine.

Only way to make sure no more overheating is to try to game on it I guess

I feel like I slapped a flexseal patch on the titanic and it's only a matter of time

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You tried to run a relatively small air cooler without moving any air through it. shite was always going to overheat

The fact that you're booting at all is a great sign for the pin damage. If you don't see any instability in the first few days of usage, it likely means losing that pin just isn't going to matter and the CPU is going to last exactly as long as it would have had you not damaged the pin. And it's more like you slapped a patch on the little dingy you were looking to replace anyway, but now you've bought yourself enough time to purchase a better replacement instead of having to take whatever was available at the moment

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Both the XT and XTX perform as well or better than the 4080

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Reviews today all seem to show the XTX = 4080 basically in 1440p and slightly better in 4k (<5%). Not quite as big a win for AMD as I expected but a win nonetheless priced at $999 vs. $1199 for 4080. Nvidia will have to lower the price of the 4080 by at least $100 if not the full $200 even with RT advantage.

I expected the XTX to slot more in-between the 4080 and 4090 than it did, but just cant have it all. Wonder what AMD can do with a 7950 XT(X)?

When are companies gonna start making these model numbers more consistent and make sense?

Last gen:

3080 = 6800 XT
3090 = 6900 XT

now the 7900 XT = the 4080 in terms of comparison performance?

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Pretty much. The 7950XTX will be the = 4090. I would assume the xx50 stays around as the top one for amd.

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If the 7950XTX is aiming at the 4090, it means AMD is ceding the halo product crown this generation, as the 4090 is a cut down die by... I think it was about 12%? Assuming they don't run into production issues, I would expect to see a 4090ti at some point with a 5-8% uplift over the current 4090.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that AMD is doing exactly what I thought Nvidia was/is doing: artificially inflating prices to try to clear old stock. I'm going to be genuinely surprised if we don't start seeing price cuts as early as Q1. I could see the 4080 being somewhere between $999 and $1099, with the XTX sagging roughly the same amount. I think Nvidia will then slot a 4080ti in around $1199 to $1299 sometime around Q3/4, depending on what production yields look like.

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The 7900XT would've been a heck of a deal if AMD released it at 749.99 and called it a 7800XT.

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Yup. And it wouldn't surprise me to see that price next quarter. Unfortunately, we're stuck with the nomenclature, I would imagine

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4090ti at some point with a 5-8% uplift over the current 4090.

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If that's all the ti sees it would be close then. AMD has stated 3D v cache sees similar performance gains to the cpu side so we're looking at 20% performance gains on the GPU side as well.

Of course we don't really know any other details on that card and what else may be increased. Just the raw gains from 3DV are substantial like on the CPU side.

The 7900XTX gets fairly close to the 4090 as is.

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hoojy

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