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Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:39 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:39 am to
You might want to do a full DDU driver wipe and reinstall, though. Your GPU performance took a weird hit between those two benchmarks. Unless that’s a really shitty benchmark with high run to run variance.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:39 am to
I also just noticed that you were running that benchmark with no upscaling (which is what you should be doing). You're practically 100% GPU bound now, which means anything you can do to increase GPU frames will be a 1:1 increase in FPS. Turn on DLSS Quality mode and watch your frames jump. You can also usually turn off all of the AA settings, as DLSS basically does that job on its own. You'll likely get 25-30 fps boost just from that alone, and I'll be surprised if you notice any degradation in video quality at all.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by BamaFan5833
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:24 pm to
Hopefully this is the right spot to ask. My son (9) is wanting a laptop for gaming. Right now he plays Fortnite on the Xbox and Roblox on his iPad. He has been playing Teardown on my brother's computer. Any recommendations for a budget-friendly laptop? Maybe 600-800 dollar range if possible. Don't want to go much over that since I am not sure how much he will actually use it. If nothing in that range what should I be looking at? Thanks
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

I also just noticed that you were running that benchmark with no upscaling (which is what you should be doing).


why would i do that instead of just using the main resolution?

if i want 1440p and it scales to 1080p, why not just set the main resolution to 1080p?
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Hopefully this is the right spot to ask. My son (9) is wanting a laptop for gaming. Right now he plays Fortnite on the Xbox and Roblox on his iPad. He has been playing Teardown on my brother's computer. Any recommendations for a budget-friendly laptop? Maybe 600-800 dollar range if possible. Don't want to go much over that since I am not sure how much he will actually use it. If nothing in that range what should I be looking at? Thanks


i'd make a thread on it so more people will see it.

but in my opinion:


Best Buy ASUS TUF with RTX 3070 for $999 (reg. $1499)

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

why would i do that instead of just using the main resolution?

if i want 1440p and it scales to 1080p, why not just set the main resolution to 1080p?


My friend, where have you been for the last several years?

DLSS 1.0 was dogshit. DLSS 2.0+ is some truly impressive tech. (Jury is still out on DLSS 3.0, but your card can't even do 3.0, so we can leave that for another day)

I don't have it in me to do a full explanation this evening, but this is Nvidia's press release when they moved to 2.0: LINK /

I'll say this: I'm not a framerate guy; I'm an eye candy snob. And even I almost never play a game at native if it offers DLSS 2.x, always opting for the Quality setting. Not only does it offer significantly better performance, but in certain situations, like with very thin geometry like power lines, it offers better visuals than native + AA. shite is legit. Trust me, give it a shot.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:22 am to
And now we start getting details on AMD's top card with 3D V Cache, apparently only the 7990XTX will feature the stacked 3D infinity cache, and it doubles to 192MB's with both stacks of 96MB.

3.3GHz-3.6GHz clocks is fricking insane like what?

quote:

RX 7990 XTX

First, the RX 7990 XTX will reportedly feature 96 RDNA 3 Compute Units (CUs) with boost clocks ranging from 3.3 GHz to 3.6 GHz. The card is expected to pack 24 GB of VRAM, a 384-bit bus, and a memory speed of 24 Gbps. The leaker thinks that, with 192 MB of Infinity Cache, the RX 7990 XTX will be the only RDNA 3 SKU to employ 3D V-Cache. Finally, the RX 7990 XTX will allegedly have a 405 W TBP.

For comparison's sake, the RX 7900 XTX has the same number of CUs and VRAM, but the card can only boost to 2.5 GHz and has 96 MB of Infinity Cache at 355 W TBP. So if the RX 7990 XTX materializes, we can expect a notable performance bump vs the RX 7900 XTX based on the clock speed improvements alone.



I'm also assuming these are the cards or at least the top card that was long rumored to be around $1500.

I wonder if we'll get a tease or anything at CES next month when they officially introduce the 3D CPUs. Would be a good time to hint at your 3D GPU.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 7:42 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:24 am to
I cant wait to see some of these benchmarks. The 7990 XTX might be a shut up and take my money
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:23 am to
I’m hoping AMD can meet these expectations. Nvidia needs to be punished for its pricing hubris.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:36 am to
How often are you guys upgrading hardware? I built my first computer in 2013. I've only upgraded the video card and RAM slightly.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:39 am to
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How often are you guys upgrading hardware? I built my first computer in 2013. I've only upgraded the video card and RAM slightly.



I used to fly through hardware. About 4 years ago I pretty much cooled off and only do upgrades when I see a deal I cant pass up
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:14 pm to
Used to yearly. Now I've still got my 8700K from 2017 but I still get a new gpu every gen or other gen at worst.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29968 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

How often are you guys upgrading hardware? I built my first computer in 2013. I've only upgraded the video card and RAM slightly.


How often someone should upgrade is answered by a simple question: is your computer still doing what you want it to do?

If you're gaming at 1080p 120fps, you can likely go a decade without upgrading with little to no issue.

On the other hand, if you're a high res, high setting gamer who is still trying to get the highest framerate possible, then you're basically upgrading GPU every generation and CPU probably ever second generation, if your financial situation can justify it.

Most people are going to somewhere in the middle.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 7:06 pm
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
2463 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:11 pm to
5800x3D w/ 6900XT and I’m having a hard time waiting another gen for mobo/cpu. Will most definitely get the 7990XTX if it’ll fit in my lian li and run on my 1200w power supply for a year until I go next gen cpu mobo w DDR5



If I hadn’t overpaid out the arse to build this pc February 2021 I’d probably do it
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:57 am to
Shut up bitch boi
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:58 am to
how many cats are you up to these days?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29968 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

800x3D w/ 6900XT and I’m having a hard time waiting another gen for mobo/cpu. Will most definitely get the 7990XTX if it’ll fit in my lian li and run on my 1200w power supply for a year until I go next gen cpu mobo w DDR5



If I hadn’t overpaid out the arse to build this pc February 2021 I’d probably do it


Are you actually playing anything right now that wants more than the 5800x3D can give it?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37987 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

5800x3D


how long do you think this will last? i've never had a CPU this "powerful" before.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29968 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

how long do you think this will last? i've never had a CPU this "powerful" before.


How do you mean?

Though, speaking of powerful:

quote:

AMD Ryzen 7000X3D series reportedly feature 16, 12 and 8-core models, coming January 2023


LINK
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37987 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:34 pm to
idk. like... how "future-proof" is it.
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