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Posted on 12/11/20 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 8:27 pm to
Linus going in on Nvidia on his WAN show: LINK
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:04 pm to
Linus is just about the only guy I watch nowadays oddly enough. Everyone else has gone off the deep end (jayz), tries to hard with clickbaity shite (nitwit), or just does boring ole shite I don't care to watch (everyone else).

Linus has basically come full circle and is now one of the few generating original, good content
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:18 pm to
Linus, GamersNexus (some of his rants are cringe, but his content is good), and HW Unboxed are the only tech channels I watch.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:01 pm to
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Really bad timing for bad PR for sure


It doesn’t really matter right now though, no one can keep 3000 series cards in stock for anyone really to care, that’s by far the bigger story.

Availability of components is just a nightmare. frick giving to reviewers, make em buy too. I don’t give a shite about people whining about not getting free cards.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 11:05 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:40 am to
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frick giving to reviewers, make em buy too. I don’t give a shite about people whining about not getting free cards.


That really isn't the issue here. The issue is Nvidia attempting to control the reviews and coverage of their cards by refusing to provide review samples to those reviewers whom they think aren't being "positive" enough with their reviews.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:29 am to
That Linus segment on it was damn good. He didn't hold back and looked legitimately pissed.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 9:31 am to
He's gotten to the state where he just doesn't give a frick anymore and can do whatever he wants
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 10:30 am to
Multiple videos coming out now from the big youtubers on this. Not sure what Nvidia was thinking other than "any publicity is good publicity" I guess. Just saw jayz2centz come out with his video, and basically ended saying blacklist me too, IDC, lol
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 4:17 pm to
Anyone have a 60% keyboard going unused they would part with?
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:43 pm to
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That really isn't the issue here. The issue is Nvidia attempting to control the reviews and coverage of their cards by refusing to provide review samples to those reviewers whom they think aren't being "positive" enough with their reviews.


Nvidia is in a position where they can do whatever they want, they don’t need reviews. They can’t keep up with demand. If they don’t want to give their cards to people who don’t give them good reviews, oh well. These reviewers are whiney bitches when they don’t get free shite for any reason.

I hate the “I’m an influencer, give me free shite and if you don’t, I’m gonna put you on blast” garbage. With supply not able to meet demand, I’d like to see the whole industry just go to a you have to get in line with everyone else system.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 5:45 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:03 pm to
Seems like you're skirting the issue and sucking off Nvidia. We got enough fanboys around here.


They deserve the heat. Period.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Dixie Normus
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:30 pm to
Yeah you are totally missing the point. They’re not bitching bout getting cut, they’re bitching about why they got cut and the heat is warranted. Nvidia pulled it because they said something critical about an Nvidia product feature.

It’s certainly their right to pull it, but there’s no way around it being chickenshit.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 11:35 pm to
Nvidia can suck it. They deserve the bad press.

While their cards are in demand, there is far more than the hype of the cards that is keeping stock low. Factories shut down, bots, and horrible management by the retailers.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 12:17 am to
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Seems like you're skirting the issue and sucking off Nvidia. We got enough fanboys around here.


Dude, all you do is fan boy. I have no issues buying from anyone. You bitch about anyone you don’t like constantly. My position on this issue wouldn’t change if it was Intel or AMD doing the same thing, it is not tied to the company.

I know the issue. Nvidia doesn’t like bad shite said about them from people who they gave free shite to and so they pulled the free shite. I don’t like the ethics of reviewers getting free things because of this, it’s better off if they pay, then you won’t run into this issue. That is a much more ethical position to present a review, the reviewer isn’t in any debt to the product company. Write it off as a business expense.

Second, frick AMD or Nvidia giving free shite to people when they are having issues delivering to paying customers.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 12:37 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 12:36 am to
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Seems like you're skirting the issue and sucking off Nvidia. We got enough fanboys around here


This is a solid quote
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 12:40 am to
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Anyone have a 60% keyboard going unused they would part with?


LSUCoyote said he was gonna send me one last year he wasn’t using. We exchanged emails and everything. Never heard back about it since.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 12:41 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 7:57 am to


At least someone got the joke.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 11:21 am to
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I know the issue. Nvidia doesn’t like bad shite said about them from people who they gave free shite to and so they pulled the free shite. I don’t like the ethics of reviewers getting free things because of this, it’s better off if they pay, then you won’t run into this issue. That is a much more ethical position to present a review, the reviewer isn’t in any debt to the product company. Write it off as a business expense.


Put it this way - the shite we would buy would look a lot different if all companies did what Nvidia did to people reviewing their products.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16705 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Put it this way - the shite we would buy would look a lot different if all companies did what Nvidia did to people reviewing their products.


Not really, people can do research outside of youtube, we did it for a long time before these people existed. They can make a living without getting freebies. Those of us that don’t pay attention to them would still get to see benchmarks in their normal place from people who are first adopters. It’s just easier for these people to get one before anyone else without any cost. This does impact their bottom line on YouTube substantially and this is why they are angry. They make their high view counts by being first with the devices. If they have to get in line with everyone else, then other people will be doing the videos first. Doesn’t impact big youtubers as much with already established audiences because they will still get high views.

If we are all fanboys anyway, doesn’t these reviewers just help us confirm our biases and not impact our purchasing habits?
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 7:55 pm to
I’d rather them get it for free so I can know it is a good purchase then me going off of nothing.

Also, reviewers live off their reputation or nobody would trust them. Free shite is not of their concern when they are talking about their livelihoods. It’s just a nice perk.
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