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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:43 am to LSU Coyote
Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:43 am to LSU Coyote
I've got a big fan question. I'm getting a new 360mm liquid cooler, haven't decided the brand yet. I plan on running a push/pull configuration at some point.
One burning questing I have that I can't seem to find, other than a bunch of contradicting info on the internet, is which fans should be on which side of the radiator.
What I really want to do is have RGB fans facing the inside of my case with the stock fans facing the outside of the case. Odds are the RGB fans will be a lower RPM and CFM than the stock cooler fans. I do however want to replace the stock fans with noctua fans down the line.
My question is should the lower RPM and CFM fans be pulling or pushing air? I know SP fans are best for pushing air through the radiator and AF fans are best for pulling. IDK if air should be pulled in faster than it is being pushed out or vice versa.
Is there a lot of math involved in this or is it something simple that I'm over thinking? Any advice would be appreciated lol.
One burning questing I have that I can't seem to find, other than a bunch of contradicting info on the internet, is which fans should be on which side of the radiator.
What I really want to do is have RGB fans facing the inside of my case with the stock fans facing the outside of the case. Odds are the RGB fans will be a lower RPM and CFM than the stock cooler fans. I do however want to replace the stock fans with noctua fans down the line.
My question is should the lower RPM and CFM fans be pulling or pushing air? I know SP fans are best for pushing air through the radiator and AF fans are best for pulling. IDK if air should be pulled in faster than it is being pushed out or vice versa.
Is there a lot of math involved in this or is it something simple that I'm over thinking? Any advice would be appreciated lol.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 3:39 pm
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 5:45 am to reauxl tigers
It doesn't matter
I put the fans on whichever side makes it easier to clean the radiator
I put the fans on whichever side makes it easier to clean the radiator
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 5:46 am
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:11 pm to bluebarracuda
Anyone else get in the Star Wars Squadrons playtest for PC? Just got email.
ETA: You can still sign up through the 19th
ETA: You can still sign up through the 19th
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:51 pm to UltimateHog
Forgot all about the game. I've been hooked on FO76 after the Early Access phase ended with the Wastelanders and debut on Steam.
Since the announcement trailer for Squadrons my mood is moving away from "Hype" towards "Uncertain with slight brace for disappointment".
Edt: what is the rumored "targeted" playtime for the main story?
Since the announcement trailer for Squadrons my mood is moving away from "Hype" towards "Uncertain with slight brace for disappointment".
Edt: what is the rumored "targeted" playtime for the main story?
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 7/20/20 at 7:56 pm to LSU Coyote
quote:
November could be a very exciting time for gamers (and a trying time for their bank balances), as a new rumor suggests that AMD is planning to launch its upcoming Big Navi flagship GPU that month – to coincide with the release of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.
I'd say RIP bank account, but not planning on getting either new console at this point. GPU + monitor instead.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 7/21/20 at 3:03 pm to UltimateHog
LG's 27" 4K 144Hz HDR600 Nano IPS monitor now avail
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 7/21/20 at 5:47 pm to UltimateHog
AMD VP confirms Zen 3 is launching this year. First official acknowledgment of that from the company.
Rumor is they are dropping with big Navi in November. Would love a bundle of some kind with a discount, 4800X + 5900XT GPU or something like that. Would be cool.
Rumor is they are dropping with big Navi in November. Would love a bundle of some kind with a discount, 4800X + 5900XT GPU or something like that. Would be cool.
quote:
According to Rick Bergman, AMD's executive vice president of Computing and Graphics, AMD will launch Zen 3 processors for the client market this year. Bergman made the important announcement in the closing lines of a corporate blog post he penned today.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:31 pm to UltimateHog
Friend just asked me about building a computer last night and I told him to hold off. I guess Zen 3 being confirmed this year means I can actually show him why to hold off.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:11 pm to UltimateHog
AMD stock got pretty happy today after the announcements of 4000g series yesterday. Which is a bit odd considering it's OEM only right now, but hey, I guess people are looking for anything to boost a stock way up these days.
Cant imagine what AMD stock will look like end of year when zen 3 and big navi comes out. My lawd
Cant imagine what AMD stock will look like end of year when zen 3 and big navi comes out. My lawd
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:27 pm to thunderbird1100
Yeah and Big Navi is really starting to sound quite nice. The 7nm TSMC node advantage + ray tracing tech the same as the upcoming consoles is quite nice if performance is truly where they are saying. Mindshare will be harder than Intel on the CPU side though no matter what here, whole different level.
Price it right and you've got a winner.
AMD’s Big Navi Graphics Card May Feature 16GB of GDDR6 Memory [Rumor]
Price it right and you've got a winner.
AMD’s Big Navi Graphics Card May Feature 16GB of GDDR6 Memory [Rumor]
quote:
The source claims that the Navi 2x flagship based on the Navi 21 die will feature 16GB of high-speed GDDR6 memory running at around 18Gbps. Paired across a 384-bit bandwidth, this will result in a massive memory bandwidth, surpassing the 800GB/s barrier.
If the Radeon RX 6900XT packs 4,500 to 5,000 stream processors, it’ll easily offer double the level of gaming performance compared to the RX 5700 XT, all the while staying within the 300W envelope. That would coincide with AMD’s claim that Navi 2x is going to increase the performance-per-watt by 50%.
Considering that NVIDIA will still be limited to Samsung’s 10nm node (8nm LPP), it should help AMD come out on top not only in terms of raw performance but also power efficiency. There’s also the matter of ray-tracing, but considering the fact that the next-gen consoles also feature the technology all the while being based on the same design means we have nothing to worry about.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:42 pm to UltimateHog
So... I put off my SFF build due to Carona, but now I finally found the SFF case I've been looking for for months.
I snagged a Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0 case. The company in Poland announced another limited batch production run of 150 units, and I managed to buy one before they ran out
The case:
LINK
Its being shipped from Poland, and they said it would take about 3 weeks to ship.
So now... I'm looking for the rest of my components. I have my case picked out, and I already got my memory from Amazon in a sale. This is my parts list so far:
Any thoughts/comments? My biggest decision at this point is:
1) Ryzen 3600 or 3700x? I've researched this case a ton and people have managed to get good thermals with both if you tune the voltage/frequency with the Noctua L9i/Cryorig C7. I have heard the C7 fancurve is loud as frick in this case in default state though.
2) Wait for new AMD/Nvidia cards or not? I have an old AMD R9 380 to tie me over if I choose to go that route, but Im not sure if that will even fit in this case to be honest. The EVGA card will fit for sure, its a true 2-slot card with a backplated (41 mm), and the case manufacturer confirmed it as well.
I snagged a Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0 case. The company in Poland announced another limited batch production run of 150 units, and I managed to buy one before they ran out
The case:
LINK
Its being shipped from Poland, and they said it would take about 3 weeks to ship.
So now... I'm looking for the rest of my components. I have my case picked out, and I already got my memory from Amazon in a sale. This is my parts list so far:
quote:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/prdvrV
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 chromax.black 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($179.00 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($539.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Corsair)
Custom: Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0 ($300.00)
Total: $1688.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-23 00:32 EDT-0400
Any thoughts/comments? My biggest decision at this point is:
1) Ryzen 3600 or 3700x? I've researched this case a ton and people have managed to get good thermals with both if you tune the voltage/frequency with the Noctua L9i/Cryorig C7. I have heard the C7 fancurve is loud as frick in this case in default state though.
2) Wait for new AMD/Nvidia cards or not? I have an old AMD R9 380 to tie me over if I choose to go that route, but Im not sure if that will even fit in this case to be honest. The EVGA card will fit for sure, its a true 2-slot card with a backplated (41 mm), and the case manufacturer confirmed it as well.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:17 am to boXerrumble
I'd wait and get the best mobo that will be good and ready for Zen 3 this fall, and get your GPU then too.
Either way I'd wait on GPU, $539 for a 2070 Super seems ridiculous.
Either way I'd wait on GPU, $539 for a 2070 Super seems ridiculous.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:41 am to UltimateHog
My biggest issue right now is motherboard availability and SFX Power Supply availability.
For whatever reason, SFF pcs have exploded lately, and ITX motherboards and SFX power supplies seem to stay in stock for a few minutes, and then are sold out again.
For whatever reason, SFF pcs have exploded lately, and ITX motherboards and SFX power supplies seem to stay in stock for a few minutes, and then are sold out again.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:10 am to boXerrumble
quote:
For whatever reason, SFF pcs have exploded lately, and ITX motherboards and SFX power supplies seem to stay in stock for a few minutes, and then are sold out again.
I feel like it's been this way for the past 2 years
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:14 am to thunderbird1100
quote:
AMD stock got pretty happy today after the announcements of 4000g series yesterday. Which is a bit odd considering it's OEM only right now, but hey, I guess people are looking for anything to boost a stock way up these days.
Cant imagine what AMD stock will look like end of year when zen 3 and big navi comes out. My lawd
Meanwhile, NVDA is up 70% since January and perpetually climing
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:20 am to bluebarracuda
And if you weren't such a fanboy you coulda invested when I told you at under $5/share.
Oh well, snooze ya lose.
Oh well, snooze ya lose.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:38 am to UltimateHog
How long have 2070 supers been priced like this?
The crappy thing in my situation is that the 5700XT cards, most of them, won't fit in the Sentry 2.0 case because almost all of them are 2+ slot. Just a very select few are true 2 slot cards.
The crappy thing in my situation is that the 5700XT cards, most of them, won't fit in the Sentry 2.0 case because almost all of them are 2+ slot. Just a very select few are true 2 slot cards.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:49 am to boXerrumble
Not sure, I would just wait for the new cards since they are supposed to be such a big leap.
Looking like Sept for Nvidia and Nov for AMD cpus and gpus.
Looking like Sept for Nvidia and Nov for AMD cpus and gpus.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 7:51 am
Posted on 7/23/20 at 8:54 am to UltimateHog
quote:
And if you weren't such a fanboy you coulda invested when I told you at under $5/share.
Hell I could have gotten in at under $20 with nvda
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:24 am to bluebarracuda
Old nVidia Demos
Talks about GTX TITANS. I be never felt like anything was an epeen except when telling ppl I run TITANS in SLi. Crazy thing is, they weren't enough. I didn't even have them for a year and upgraded to 780Tis for the extra 224 CUDA cores.
Talks about GTX TITANS. I be never felt like anything was an epeen except when telling ppl I run TITANS in SLi. Crazy thing is, they weren't enough. I didn't even have them for a year and upgraded to 780Tis for the extra 224 CUDA cores.
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