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Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:13 pm to
I was thinking about the term spun up in reference to VMs the other day.

I wonder if kids 10yrs from now will understand the origin of it's meaning.

Edt: Because spinning platters might not be around in any form.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:04 pm to
I think I'm going to grab the Samsung QHD/240 for now.

No HDMI 2.1 on the LG 4K so the only way you can get 4K 10 bit 144 is with DSC and on PS5 you won't be able to do above 4K/60. No local dimming kind of sucks as well, although for the price point it's a fantastic value.

Who knows I'll just wait for reviews. Can't make up my mind.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 9:26 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:38 pm to
So ray tracing is still a mess on PC, I'm hopeful that the next gen consoles getting RT will help the development of it. It should.

NVIDIA RTX2080Ti cannot run Watch Dogs Legion Preview Build with 60fps on 1080p/Ultra Settings/RTX
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:08 pm to
I don't turn it on in some games. Th only game I really ever made use of it was Control.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:31 pm to
Going to be interesting to see what games are touting RT in the PS5 and at what resolution/RR.

1440p/60 probably with Ray tracing. Hopefully not 30 FPS. Otherwise 1080/60/RT would be lame.

But we know next to nothing about how RT will work from AMD or on the console side.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:58 pm to
It is still difficult to push a consistent 60frames at 2160 with all the eye candy turned up. With my 2080Ti under water I still struggle to stay around 70fps at times.

Keep me updated on the monitor hunt. I'm also in the market, and want a new set when Ampere launches.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:28 pm to
Still leaning the LG 4K just wish it wasn't 27". Prefer 32" for 4K but it'll be fine.

Just reading up on what DSC is since that's the only way to get 4K 144Hz 10 bit over DP1.4 as there is no HDMI2. 1.

EDT: Nevermind going Samsung Odyssey G7. Better all around monitor, LG monitors don't have the best reputation lately (terrible contrast issues) and VA > IPS these days from what I gather.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 12:43 am to
I've got a big fan question. I'm getting a new 360mm liquid cooler, haven't decided the brand yet. I plan on running a push/pull configuration at some point.

One burning questing I have that I can't seem to find, other than a bunch of contradicting info on the internet, is which fans should be on which side of the radiator.

What I really want to do is have RGB fans facing the inside of my case with the stock fans facing the outside of the case. Odds are the RGB fans will be a lower RPM and CFM than the stock cooler fans. I do however want to replace the stock fans with noctua fans down the line.

My question is should the lower RPM and CFM fans be pulling or pushing air? I know SP fans are best for pushing air through the radiator and AF fans are best for pulling. IDK if air should be pulled in faster than it is being pushed out or vice versa.

Is there a lot of math involved in this or is it something simple that I'm over thinking? Any advice would be appreciated lol.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 5:45 am to
It doesn't matter

I put the fans on whichever side makes it easier to clean the radiator
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 5:46 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:11 pm to
Anyone else get in the Star Wars Squadrons playtest for PC? Just got email.

ETA: You can still sign up through the 19th
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 11:52 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:51 pm to
Forgot all about the game. I've been hooked on FO76 after the Early Access phase ended with the Wastelanders and debut on Steam.

Since the announcement trailer for Squadrons my mood is moving away from "Hype" towards "Uncertain with slight brace for disappointment".

Edt: what is the rumored "targeted" playtime for the main story?
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

November could be a very exciting time for gamers (and a trying time for their bank balances), as a new rumor suggests that AMD is planning to launch its upcoming Big Navi flagship GPU that month – to coincide with the release of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.


I'd say RIP bank account, but not planning on getting either new console at this point. GPU + monitor instead.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 3:03 pm to
LG's 27" 4K 144Hz HDR600 Nano IPS monitor now avail
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 5:47 pm to
AMD VP confirms Zen 3 is launching this year. First official acknowledgment of that from the company.

Rumor is they are dropping with big Navi in November. Would love a bundle of some kind with a discount, 4800X + 5900XT GPU or something like that. Would be cool.

quote:

According to Rick Bergman, AMD's executive vice president of Computing and Graphics, AMD will launch Zen 3 processors for the client market this year. Bergman made the important announcement in the closing lines of a corporate blog post he penned today.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:31 pm to
Friend just asked me about building a computer last night and I told him to hold off. I guess Zen 3 being confirmed this year means I can actually show him why to hold off.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:11 pm to
AMD stock got pretty happy today after the announcements of 4000g series yesterday. Which is a bit odd considering it's OEM only right now, but hey, I guess people are looking for anything to boost a stock way up these days.

Cant imagine what AMD stock will look like end of year when zen 3 and big navi comes out. My lawd
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 4:12 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:27 pm to
Yeah and Big Navi is really starting to sound quite nice. The 7nm TSMC node advantage + ray tracing tech the same as the upcoming consoles is quite nice if performance is truly where they are saying. Mindshare will be harder than Intel on the CPU side though no matter what here, whole different level.

Price it right and you've got a winner.

LINK ]AMD’s Big Navi Graphics Card May Feature 16GB of GDDR6 Memory [Rumor]

quote:

The source claims that the Navi 2x flagship based on the Navi 21 die will feature 16GB of high-speed GDDR6 memory running at around 18Gbps. Paired across a 384-bit bandwidth, this will result in a massive memory bandwidth, surpassing the 800GB/s barrier.

If the Radeon RX 6900XT packs 4,500 to 5,000 stream processors, it’ll easily offer double the level of gaming performance compared to the RX 5700 XT, all the while staying within the 300W envelope. That would coincide with AMD’s claim that Navi 2x is going to increase the performance-per-watt by 50%.

Considering that NVIDIA will still be limited to Samsung’s 10nm node (8nm LPP), it should help AMD come out on top not only in terms of raw performance but also power efficiency. There’s also the matter of ray-tracing, but considering the fact that the next-gen consoles also feature the technology all the while being based on the same design means we have nothing to worry about.

This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 11:29 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:42 pm to
So... I put off my SFF build due to Carona, but now I finally found the SFF case I've been looking for for months.

I snagged a Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0 case. The company in Poland announced another limited batch production run of 150 units, and I managed to buy one before they ran out

The case:







LINK

Its being shipped from Poland, and they said it would take about 3 weeks to ship.

So now... I'm looking for the rest of my components. I have my case picked out, and I already got my memory from Amazon in a sale. This is my parts list so far:

quote:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/prdvrV

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 chromax.black 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($179.00 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($539.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Corsair)
Custom: Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0 ($300.00)
Total: $1688.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-23 00:32 EDT-0400


Any thoughts/comments? My biggest decision at this point is:

1) Ryzen 3600 or 3700x? I've researched this case a ton and people have managed to get good thermals with both if you tune the voltage/frequency with the Noctua L9i/Cryorig C7. I have heard the C7 fancurve is loud as frick in this case in default state though.

2) Wait for new AMD/Nvidia cards or not? I have an old AMD R9 380 to tie me over if I choose to go that route, but Im not sure if that will even fit in this case to be honest. The EVGA card will fit for sure, its a true 2-slot card with a backplated (41 mm), and the case manufacturer confirmed it as well.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:17 am to
I'd wait and get the best mobo that will be good and ready for Zen 3 this fall, and get your GPU then too.

Either way I'd wait on GPU, $539 for a 2070 Super seems ridiculous.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:41 am to
My biggest issue right now is motherboard availability and SFX Power Supply availability.

For whatever reason, SFF pcs have exploded lately, and ITX motherboards and SFX power supplies seem to stay in stock for a few minutes, and then are sold out again.
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