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boXerrumble
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What are the alternatives? Is the C7 decent in a case like the 202 or the Silverstone cases?


bluebarracuda
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The L9i is about as good as you'll get for a SFF cooler


LSU Coyote
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Yep, reason I have so many, just saying they are limited.

Only other option would be an AiO.
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bluebarracuda
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I have the cryorig c7 in my htpc. No complaints here


boXerrumble
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I have the cryorig c7 in my htpc. No complaints here


I'm basically down to the C7 G: LINK

or the L9i (AM4): LINK

The Noctua is $50 but rated at 65 TDP, the C7 G is $100 (weird, I could've swore this cooler was a lot less expensive), but the G version is fully made of copper covered with graphene, and rated at 125 TDP.

I'm almost tempted at this point to say frick it and get a 3700x or 3800x just because
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LSU Coyote
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Yeah, it's the reason I said it is "limited", but still impressive. Just maybe not the right choice for a gaming rig, if you could sneak in another cooler.

But, I also have been "conditioned" that temps over 40C is my rig about to catch fire. Guess it's a product of mainly only gaming on custom watered cooled PCs. My temps under hours of loud sometimes get above 40C.
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LSU Coyote
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Good God ..

YouTube: LTT - Gaming Browser

Edt: I do like the RAM limit setting.
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LSU Coyote
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Looking at blocks for my 3900X, crazy that Amazon sells EKWB products now, or a reseller on Amazon.

I rather mess with Amazon than Performance PCs and FrozenCPU's insane S&H prices.



EKWB Velocity - Really only option IMO?

IDK what to do for a MOBO, just hate all the designs. The MSI ones I do like, they come with goofy dragons over the chipset.
MOBO: ASUS Strix X570

Purchased this one too, will see which I prefer.
MOBO: GIGABYTE AORUS Master X570
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LSU Coyote
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I know, 2 LTTs videos posted in a row, but he is entertaining.

YouTube: LTT - Crysis 3 running on Threadripper 3990X - 64cores! (no GPU)
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what to do for a MOBO, just hate all the designs. The MSI ones I do like, they come with goofy dragons over the chipset.


Yeah that’s the equivalent of RGB.


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LSU Coyote
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Yeah that’s the equivalent of RGB.

RGB can at less, usually, be turned off..

The Dragons, goofy branding on things kill PC gaming products.


boXerrumble
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After more research on components (GPU mainly), I've decided on the 5700 XT Pulse from Sapphire.

Waiting on a couple gift cards to show up before I purchase everything. I'm not sure if 3rd gen Ryzen really benefits from faster memory like 1st and 2nd gen did, so I may go down to DDR4-3000, because I don't really think it would make much of a noticeable difference from what I do.

PCPer didnt have the HyperX Fury DDR4-3000 16 GB kit, so I have the DDR4-3200 kit in there now...

Thoughts? I'm going for basically a clean, mini-itx build with close to zero RGB, that can handle decent 1080p/1440p gaming with workstation capabilities for video and some microcontroller/FPGA design (I haven't decided on a monitor yet - any suggestions?)

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7G 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($403.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone ML08 HTPC Case ($102.20 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($129.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1266.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-09 13:23 EST-0500


LSU Coyote
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After more research on components (GPU mainly), I've decided on the 5700 XT Pulse from Sapphire.

IDK the thermals, but should be well enough power for your needs. One thing to remember when building iTX systems is that the "game" changes in terms of acoustics. There is less area/specs/inlets where air flows into the case, so those sounds are now amplified. Might want to look into new case fans if the case you select mentions anything about shtty case fans.
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3rd gen Ryzen really benefits from faster memory like 1st and 2nd gen did

This will be my first experience with Ryzen but it is, imo from experience, buy RAM with low tight timings. You then have options between avg frequency/low tight timings, high frequency/avg timings or high frequency/high timings. RAM with lower timings usually gives you more flexibility to find the best settings for your CPU. So when purchasing RAM I almost always go for Low-Tight Timings/Avg Frengquency over High Timings/High Frequency.



boXerrumble
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GamersNexus reviewed the Sapphire 5700XT Pulse and he had high praise for the thermals and noise.

The Silverstone ML08B case (similar to the RVZ02 and the Node 202 - except you can mount 2 120 mm fans potentially in the Node 202, depending on your GPU thickness) has seperate chambers for CPU and GPU, and does not have any case fans. Ive looked into a bunch of builds with the case on PCPer, and SmallFormFactor.net and it seems like this build should fair really well with thermals and noise.

The Kingston DDR4-3200 kit, according to Kingston's site, has 2 XMP profiless:

XMP Profile #1: DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18 @1.35V
XMP Profile #2: DDR4-3000 CL15-17-17 @1.35V

I've been looking for the amazing CL14 kits, but I cant find anyones for decent prices - the ones out there for 16 GB are close to $130+, which is not worth it.
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LSU Coyote
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Took apart the loop tonight, half-ass cleaned it. Panels off the case, done to just frame. Reason it looks weird. (Ignore goofy towel for water)



I still don't know about this MOBO. Will finish the build tomorrow when my block arrives.



6850k and MOBO for sale. Idk who the fckk would buy that unless for "lab" use.
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boXerrumble
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WHich mobo did you go with?


bluebarracuda
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Looks like the asus strix x570 gaming... since it says it right in that last pic


boXerrumble
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Ah... I see the portion of the Strix now

I guess theres only 1 X570-F model too. I'm so out of touch with components now.

EDIT: If I remember correctly, the Strix X470 Gaming version for 2nd gen Ryzen, had one of the best VRM solutions for X470.
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LSU Coyote
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WHich mobo did you go with?

I purchased both, will block and run the Strix but idk if I'm sticking with it.
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guess theres only 1 X570-F model too. I'm so out of touch with components now

Don't worry, me too.
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LSU Coyote
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The only reason I might use the other MOBO is because of the dual LAN. One of them being that fake 2.5GBe, makes it perfect for a direct link to my FreeNAS box. I plan on putting my whole Steam Library on my NAS once I put in a 10GBe NIC.

Edt: what mobos, if any, have native 10GBe?
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