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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:39 am to boXerrumble
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:39 am to boXerrumble
Have you looked at the Fractal Node 202? I love mine, and fits nearly any graphics card. I don't have any HDDs in mine, just a single 1tb m.2 drive, so building in it was a breeze
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:42 am to boXerrumble
quote:
Noctua L9i
I have 4-5 of these coolers, love them in everything but when trying to use in a gaming iTX/SFF builds.
Its very limited. Can get pretty loud at times, but that is just the SFF life.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:43 am to bluebarracuda
quote:
Have you looked at the Fractal Node 202
2nd
305 or 304 changed the SFF game, also make great home servers and NAS boxes.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:25 am to LSU Coyote
I love the simple look of the 202 too. Looks nice in my entertainment center.
Basically has a simple look of a console
Basically has a simple look of a console
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:17 pm to bluebarracuda
Remember TekSyndicate fckking Wendell a few years back?
Look at their "pilot" episode. They throw shots.
YouTube: Level1Tech - Hello World
Wendell has always been a God on Earth. Remember for years he would hide behind monitors to not show face?
Ryan is fckking hilarious every show, if you love realist dry humor.
Krista is a kind heart, she has grown on my a ton.
Support L1Tech!
Look at their "pilot" episode. They throw shots.
YouTube: Level1Tech - Hello World
Wendell has always been a God on Earth. Remember for years he would hide behind monitors to not show face?
Ryan is fckking hilarious every show, if you love realist dry humor.
Krista is a kind heart, she has grown on my a ton.
Support L1Tech!
Posted on 2/5/20 at 10:34 pm to bluebarracuda
Yep, I have. Honestly can’t go wrong with either the 202 or the ML08B/RVZ02. Really my top 2 choices.
I do like the look of the Silverstone slightly better but that’s just personal preference
I do like the look of the Silverstone slightly better but that’s just personal preference
Posted on 2/5/20 at 11:00 pm to LSU Coyote
What are the alternatives? Is the C7 decent in a case like the 202 or the Silverstone cases?
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:51 am to boXerrumble
The L9i is about as good as you'll get for a SFF cooler
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:57 am to bluebarracuda
Yep, reason I have so many, just saying they are limited.
Only other option would be an AiO.
Only other option would be an AiO.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 7:58 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:11 am to LSU Coyote
I have the cryorig c7 in my htpc. No complaints here
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:40 am to bluebarracuda
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I have the cryorig c7 in my htpc. No complaints here
I'm basically down to the C7 G: LINK
or the L9i (AM4): LINK
The Noctua is $50 but rated at 65 TDP, the C7 G is $100 (weird, I could've swore this cooler was a lot less expensive), but the G version is fully made of copper covered with graphene, and rated at 125 TDP.
I'm almost tempted at this point to say frick it and get a 3700x or 3800x just because
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:06 am to boXerrumble
Yeah, it's the reason I said it is "limited", but still impressive. Just maybe not the right choice for a gaming rig, if you could sneak in another cooler.
But, I also have been "conditioned" that temps over 40C is my rig about to catch fire. Guess it's a product of mainly only gaming on custom watered cooled PCs. My temps under hours of loud sometimes get above 40C.
But, I also have been "conditioned" that temps over 40C is my rig about to catch fire. Guess it's a product of mainly only gaming on custom watered cooled PCs. My temps under hours of loud sometimes get above 40C.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:49 pm to LSU Coyote
Good God ..
YouTube: LTT - Gaming Browser
Edt: I do like the RAM limit setting.
YouTube: LTT - Gaming Browser
Edt: I do like the RAM limit setting.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 11:00 am to LSU Coyote
Looking at blocks for my 3900X, crazy that Amazon sells EKWB products now, or a reseller on Amazon.
I rather mess with Amazon than Performance PCs and FrozenCPU's insane S&H prices.
EKWB Velocity - Really only option IMO?
IDK what to do for a MOBO, just hate all the designs. The MSI ones I do like, they come with goofy dragons over the chipset.
MOBO: ASUS Strix X570
Purchased this one too, will see which I prefer.
MOBO: GIGABYTE AORUS Master X570
I rather mess with Amazon than Performance PCs and FrozenCPU's insane S&H prices.
EKWB Velocity - Really only option IMO?
IDK what to do for a MOBO, just hate all the designs. The MSI ones I do like, they come with goofy dragons over the chipset.
MOBO: ASUS Strix X570
Purchased this one too, will see which I prefer.
MOBO: GIGABYTE AORUS Master X570
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 11:29 am to LSU Coyote
I know, 2 LTTs videos posted in a row, but he is entertaining.
YouTube: LTT - Crysis 3 running on Threadripper 3990X - 64cores! (no GPU)
YouTube: LTT - Crysis 3 running on Threadripper 3990X - 64cores! (no GPU)
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 11:30 am
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:27 pm to LSU Coyote
quote:
what to do for a MOBO, just hate all the designs. The MSI ones I do like, they come with goofy dragons over the chipset.
Yeah that’s the equivalent of RGB.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:20 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
Yeah that’s the equivalent of RGB.
RGB can at less, usually, be turned off..
The Dragons, goofy branding on things kill PC gaming products.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:28 pm to LSU Coyote
After more research on components (GPU mainly), I've decided on the 5700 XT Pulse from Sapphire.
Waiting on a couple gift cards to show up before I purchase everything. I'm not sure if 3rd gen Ryzen really benefits from faster memory like 1st and 2nd gen did, so I may go down to DDR4-3000, because I don't really think it would make much of a noticeable difference from what I do.
PCPer didnt have the HyperX Fury DDR4-3000 16 GB kit, so I have the DDR4-3200 kit in there now...
Thoughts? I'm going for basically a clean, mini-itx build with close to zero RGB, that can handle decent 1080p/1440p gaming with workstation capabilities for video and some microcontroller/FPGA design (I haven't decided on a monitor yet - any suggestions?)
PCPartPicker Part List: LINK
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7G 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($403.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone ML08 HTPC Case ($102.20 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($129.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1266.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-09 13:23 EST-0500
Waiting on a couple gift cards to show up before I purchase everything. I'm not sure if 3rd gen Ryzen really benefits from faster memory like 1st and 2nd gen did, so I may go down to DDR4-3000, because I don't really think it would make much of a noticeable difference from what I do.
PCPer didnt have the HyperX Fury DDR4-3000 16 GB kit, so I have the DDR4-3200 kit in there now...
Thoughts? I'm going for basically a clean, mini-itx build with close to zero RGB, that can handle decent 1080p/1440p gaming with workstation capabilities for video and some microcontroller/FPGA design (I haven't decided on a monitor yet - any suggestions?)
PCPartPicker Part List: LINK
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7G 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($403.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone ML08 HTPC Case ($102.20 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($129.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1266.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-09 13:23 EST-0500
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:52 pm to boXerrumble
quote:
After more research on components (GPU mainly), I've decided on the 5700 XT Pulse from Sapphire.
IDK the thermals, but should be well enough power for your needs. One thing to remember when building iTX systems is that the "game" changes in terms of acoustics. There is less area/specs/inlets where air flows into the case, so those sounds are now amplified. Might want to look into new case fans if the case you select mentions anything about shtty case fans.
quote:
3rd gen Ryzen really benefits from faster memory like 1st and 2nd gen did
This will be my first experience with Ryzen but it is, imo from experience, buy RAM with low tight timings. You then have options between avg frequency/low tight timings, high frequency/avg timings or high frequency/high timings. RAM with lower timings usually gives you more flexibility to find the best settings for your CPU. So when purchasing RAM I almost always go for Low-Tight Timings/Avg Frengquency over High Timings/High Frequency.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 1:14 pm to LSU Coyote
GamersNexus reviewed the Sapphire 5700XT Pulse and he had high praise for the thermals and noise.
The Silverstone ML08B case (similar to the RVZ02 and the Node 202 - except you can mount 2 120 mm fans potentially in the Node 202, depending on your GPU thickness) has seperate chambers for CPU and GPU, and does not have any case fans. Ive looked into a bunch of builds with the case on PCPer, and SmallFormFactor.net and it seems like this build should fair really well with thermals and noise.
The Kingston DDR4-3200 kit, according to Kingston's site, has 2 XMP profiless:
XMP Profile #1: DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18 @1.35V
XMP Profile #2: DDR4-3000 CL15-17-17 @1.35V
I've been looking for the amazing CL14 kits, but I cant find anyones for decent prices - the ones out there for 16 GB are close to $130+, which is not worth it.
The Silverstone ML08B case (similar to the RVZ02 and the Node 202 - except you can mount 2 120 mm fans potentially in the Node 202, depending on your GPU thickness) has seperate chambers for CPU and GPU, and does not have any case fans. Ive looked into a bunch of builds with the case on PCPer, and SmallFormFactor.net and it seems like this build should fair really well with thermals and noise.
The Kingston DDR4-3200 kit, according to Kingston's site, has 2 XMP profiless:
XMP Profile #1: DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18 @1.35V
XMP Profile #2: DDR4-3000 CL15-17-17 @1.35V
I've been looking for the amazing CL14 kits, but I cant find anyones for decent prices - the ones out there for 16 GB are close to $130+, which is not worth it.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 1:16 pm
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