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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by RouxDog91
Denham Springs
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:41 pm to
Gotcha..

On another note, I have an Acer monitor that I'm using for my xbox currently. 75 hz.

Would that be good enough?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:41 pm to
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Framerate over 60 doesn't matter until high level competitive gaming.

Meaning your 144hz doesn't amount to shite playing fortnite against the general gaming community.



High as frick. I wouldn’t spend $1000 to get the same experience as a console 10 years ago. Y’all need to get with the times and stop using 60fps as a bench. 144hz at 1080p can be done with a tin can nowadays.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:43 pm to
75hz is decent and fine to start off. I’d use that until you can get a good monitor 144hz at either 1080p or 1440p.

I started off on an Asus 75hz
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 5:44 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:43 pm to
Yeah we've moved past 1080p/60 years ago even just for benchmarking.

High refresh rate or go home these days.

We're getting a frick ton of 4K/144Hz monitors this year.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:47 pm to
What do you think the min specs are to run 4K/144?

I’d imagine people who want 4K want great picture but can anything right now run 4K at full graphics at 144?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:50 pm to
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I’d imagine people who want 4K want great picture but can anything right now run 4K at full graphics at 144?


Nope

My 2080Ti under water struggles to get me 70in most games when everything is turned up.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 3:08 am to
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What do you think the min specs are to run 4K/144?

I’d imagine people who want 4K want great picture but can anything right now run 4K at full graphics at 144?


When they launch? Yes, AMD and Nvidia's offerings for this year will be out months beforehand. I would imagine someone like LG would even try to stagger a release around the new GPU's but mini-LED tech is cutting edge so I don't think they can speed up on their Q4 release.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 4:02 am to
The new GPUs will still struggle to hit that with everything turned up.

Edt: idt he was asking about display tech but processing power.

Edt2: another note, this is the first gen I haven't ran SLi (usually TITANS) since Fermi (5xx 2011). Soo I can't speak to the current support with SLi drivers but it was dropping off relative to previous years. However, we also didn't need SLi/Cfx to max out titles like previous years. Processing power sort of caught up with display tech, but going into this year that pendulum might be swinging back in the other direction.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 4:12 am
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:47 am to
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I wouldn’t spend $1000 to get the same experience as a console 10 years ago. Y’all need to get with the times and stop using 60fps as a bench. 144hz at 1080p can be done with a tin can nowadays.
I simply said 60 fps was the min I would target if building. And consoles were not hitting 1080p/60fps 10 years ago.

If anyone is high as frick...
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:14 am to
Xbox one came out 7 years ago and mine gets 60 so yeah

144 should be the min for building. Hell the new consoles are going to reach for 120.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 10:19 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:17 am to
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AMD and Nvidia's offerings for this year will be out months beforehand.


You think they can jump up like 70-80 FPS? I can see esports style gaming getting up there.
Posted by Devious
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Member since Dec 2010
29422 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:26 am to
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Xbox one came out 7 years ago and mine gets 60 so yeah
It does not get 60 fps on every game. Let's cut the crap.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:43 am to
It’s an almost 10 year old console. It’s 2020 man, PCs get way better than that now. All I was saying is don’t target 60 anymore especially at $1000. $400-500 build can get 60 easily with likely getting over 100.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29422 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:46 am to
Why are you struggling so much with comprehension?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 12:51 pm to
Why aren’t you? STOP BENCHMARKING WITH 60/1080p

Did you get that?
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 12:56 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69420 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 1:30 pm to
Yes.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56432 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 1:37 pm to
A lot of confusion in here.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29422 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 1:46 pm to
You clearly didn't understand what I said. So I'll repeat yet again.

For me, I would not target anything under 60 fps.

For a grand, he could easily build a 1080p/60fps system.

It's that simple. I never once said that's what he should aim for. Simply said it is easily doable.

Comprende?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56432 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 2:45 pm to
I hope this doesn't confuse anyone but, resolution alone doesn't reflect effort from processing power alone.

In 2012 we all games @ 1440. A lot of 1440/90fps monitors too. We thought 4K/120 would be standard 2yrs later, well here we are..

As graphics engines become more complex, it takes more effort. Resolution alone isn't a great measuring stick.

How this convo even got to that point was goofy, and noobish.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 2:51 pm to
Incredible.
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