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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:37 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 8/29/18 at 9:37 pm to LSU Coyote
Will input lag ever be negated on freesync/g-sync monitors?
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:21 am to bluebarracuda
Serious question
Should I buy another Titan Xp and SLI them or just get rid of the one I have and try to get a 2080Ti with plans to SLI another one when inventory catches up?
Should I buy another Titan Xp and SLI them or just get rid of the one I have and try to get a 2080Ti with plans to SLI another one when inventory catches up?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:05 am to stout
Man I say 2080 Ti. That is what I'm doing in a month with my 2 x TITAN X Pascals. Not even going SLi from the start which will be the first time in like 6yrs. Tons of games don't even have support and if they do get support it is not at launch. The problem with not being at launch for me is I play most games at launch, so I bet them by the time SLi support comes 6months later.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:08 am to bluebarracuda
quote:
Will input lag ever be negated on freesync/g-sync monitors?
From what I understand its not terrible on gsync but horrible with freesync. PCper did a good job with metrics years ago on this issue. Will try and find the article.
My experience with gsync was great but not for us. We usually have PCs that lock us at an fps we enjoy. They are all overpriced and don't have things I truly want in a monitor.
PCPer - Difference in GSync vs FreeSync
PCPer - More details
Edt: anyone ever take their ADD/ADHD medicine and then become hyper sensitive to input lag? I normally don't have an issue with it but when on Adderall I notice any delay.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 8:27 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:36 pm to LSU Coyote
Yeah that's really old, freesync has had a tad lower input lag than gsync for awhile now.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:39 pm to UltimateHog
At least he provided sources
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:42 pm to bluebarracuda
I don't really care. Nvidia is going to be supporting it soon anyways. They were fighting a losing battle from the start.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:42 pm to UltimateHog
quote:
Yeah that's really old, freesync has had a tad lower input lag than gsync for awhile now
You sure?
The tech didn't change.
quote:
Yeah that's really old, freesync has had a tad lower input lag than gsync for awhile now
Yes and no.
It is 2 different processes
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:43 pm to LSU Coyote
Actually it has.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:44 pm to UltimateHog
Okay, let me google. IDK how but would love to find out. Thanks for explaining how this tech works!
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:47 pm to LSU Coyote
No problem.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:53 pm to UltimateHog
It they both still suck. No standard is better than the other for input lag. Looking for metrics but really non out there that I can find right now.
Still think you are mistaken. Again doesn't matter the age of the articles. The process of this tech didn't change. Freesync 2 is basically display port 2.0 adaptation from 1.2.
Edt: Gsync is surprior if you read about both techs. But it comes at a stupid price markup. nVidia needs to support both standards.
After more reading the input lag issues with might not be specific to gsnyc or freesync but windows. All the input lag tests seem marginal at best.
Please read those articles UH. PCper also did a good 30mins podcast on the tech if you can't read with Red glasses on.
Still think you are mistaken. Again doesn't matter the age of the articles. The process of this tech didn't change. Freesync 2 is basically display port 2.0 adaptation from 1.2.
Edt: Gsync is surprior if you read about both techs. But it comes at a stupid price markup. nVidia needs to support both standards.
After more reading the input lag issues with might not be specific to gsnyc or freesync but windows. All the input lag tests seem marginal at best.
Please read those articles UH. PCper also did a good 30mins podcast on the tech if you can't read with Red glasses on.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:23 pm to LSU Coyote
It's not, freesync 2 is actually superior by a decent margin especially for new tech.
We've been over this when HDR and FreeSync 2 dropped.
We've been over this when HDR and FreeSync 2 dropped.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:39 pm to UltimateHog
Goddammit.
HDR. And no we haven't been through this.
We aren't talking fckking hdr. Yes this is photon latency which is part of input latency. It's not exactly total input latency. Please understand.
HDR. And no we haven't been through this.
We aren't talking fckking hdr. Yes this is photon latency which is part of input latency. It's not exactly total input latency. Please understand.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:42 pm to LSU Coyote
I am though, I specifically said new tech.
We already know input lag for standard is the same on both.
We already know input lag for standard is the same on both.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:45 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:
Will input lag ever be negated on freesync/g-sync monitors?
Now to answer this, the difference is minimal, so unless you are playing CSGO or something it won't matter.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:45 pm to UltimateHog
That isn't true though. Input lag is a totallity of different processes in the pipeline. It is very hard to truly measure.
It does exist.
It does exist.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:47 pm to LSU Coyote
Correct, some tests show Freesync having less, others show Gsync having less. The difference for each in said tests are very very small.
Unless we are talking HDR, where Freesync 2 has significantly less input lag thanks to it's tech.
Unless we are talking HDR, where Freesync 2 has significantly less input lag thanks to it's tech.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:48 pm to UltimateHog
Are you in marketing? You are awesome at being misleading.
Edt: I will agree margins are small.
Read those articles. They are good.
Edt2:
Don't muddy the water again. Also not sure how much truth if any is in that statement.
Edt: I will agree margins are small.
Read those articles. They are good.
Edt2:
quote:
Unless we are talking HDR, where Freesync 2 has significantly less input lag thanks to it's tech
Don't muddy the water again. Also not sure how much truth if any is in that statement.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 1:52 pm to LSU Coyote
If I was in marketing I'd just post that there are over 300 Freesync monitors available and not even 60 GSync.
Or that there is 4 major television brands with freesync support already added or coming next year (Samsung and Vizio already, Sony and LG in 2019).
That would matter more in terms of Nvidia being forced to support the tech as manufacturers continue to push back and some even declining to make GSync displays than anything else.
Funny enough the PS4/Pro does not support Freesync, they are apparently saving that for the PS5. The Xbox One S and Xbox One X supports it though.
Or that there is 4 major television brands with freesync support already added or coming next year (Samsung and Vizio already, Sony and LG in 2019).
That would matter more in terms of Nvidia being forced to support the tech as manufacturers continue to push back and some even declining to make GSync displays than anything else.
Funny enough the PS4/Pro does not support Freesync, they are apparently saving that for the PS5. The Xbox One S and Xbox One X supports it though.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 1:54 pm
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