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Posted on 5/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
Very nice. Love it when solutions are the easy ones
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:58 am to
Welp... took the plunge and finally bought a new GPU, and gonna get one last run out of AM4.

Upgrading my ITX build with new parts:

5800x3d (New)
Fractal Lumen S24 V2 Cooler (New)
B550i Aorus Pro AX (Reusing)
Teamgroup DDR4-3200 32 GB 14-14-14-34 (Reusing)
WD SN750 500 GB (Reusing)
SK Hynix P31 2GB (Reusing)
RTX4080 Super FE (New)
Corsair SF750 (New)
Lian Li A4-H20 (New)

Gonna try to get 3-4 more years out of AM4 before moving to a new platform
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 3:20 pm to
So, I haven't kept up with all the changes and am just now getting a little up to speed on current hardware and (potentially) revolutionary changes on the horizon - so with that out of the way:

Just how big a deal are NPU considerations, the upcoming ARM chip explosion, Windows 12 (maybe?) for a current, mid-2024 build? I know if the need isn't necessarily pressing, one can always wait and the parts always get better/cheaper, more future-proof, but are these things legit concerns to cause a wait of 6 months or a year just to see how all these things evolve?

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:58 pm to
I'm not particularly concerned about NPUs and ARM chips, but I wouldn't build right now unless I had to. New generations of CPUs from both AMD and Intel are getting released in the next couple of months, and the next round of Nvidia GPUs should be released Q4. I would wait six months for those reasons alone.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 9:14 pm to
Watching the AMD keynote now. I'll edit this post with thoughts as it goes:

AMD is claiming a 16% IPC uplift from Zen 4. I don't know if I believe it, but if it's true, that's impressive. Last gen IPC uplift was about 10%.

ETA: And... I think that's it. I'm watching it at 1.5x speed, and 90% has been AI shite

Interestingly, it seems like AMD is pushing AI heavily in their laptop chips, but not their mainstream desktop chips. I assume it's a silicon space issue, but don't actually know.
This post was edited on 6/2/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:28 am to
The 9600X and 9700X being 65W is interesting I guess.
Do y'all think we'll get Arrow Lake today or not until September?
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:15 am to
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The 9600X and 9700X being 65W is interesting I guess. Do y'all think we'll get Arrow Lake today or not until September?

I think we’ll know more tonight, but if you mean release, I wouldn’t expect to see them be released until Q4. Most people’s expected cadence is Granite Ridge in July, Arrow Lake in November or so, and Granite Ridge x3D in December or so as an answer.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:14 pm to
I will swap the 7700X for the 9800X3D when it drops. Pretty much why I went ahead and built earlier this year.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:27 pm to
I built AM5 for this reason. Will wait for benchmarks but I plan to jump on the 9800X3D as well.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/8/24 at 9:14 pm to
No new GPU's until 2025.

quote:

'Nvidia GeForce RTX 50 series has also been delayed to early 2025'

Earlier this week, we reported that AMD and Intel have delayed their next generations of graphics cards. In the meantime, Tweakers has been able to confirm to multiple sources at the Computex fair that Nvidia's RTX 50 series has also been delayed.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/8/24 at 9:44 pm to
I thought about posting this earlier today, but it's a pretty big clusterfrick of rumor at this point. I would be somewhat surprised to see Nvidia pass up what would be a competition-free holiday season, but stranger things have happened.

Anyway, this is the full run down on Videocardz.com.
Posted by LSUGent
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:44 am to
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competition-free holiday season


There would still be competition… just with themselves and their previous gen
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:58 am to
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I would be somewhat surprised to see Nvidia pass up what would be a competition-free holiday season


Yes and no, the other side of that coin is if they need more time they can take it as they have no competition.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 8:45 am to
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Yes and no, the other side of that coin is if they need more time they can take it as they have no competition.

If they need it, of course. If it’s just to see more 40 series, I don’t think that would make much sense.

Then again, with the rise of AI Nvidia is caring less and less about consumer GPUs, so we could be entering a new normal entirely.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 4:36 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 11:37 am to
I’m so glad I got the 4080 super
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:24 pm to
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Then again, with the rise of Nvidia is caring less and less about consumer GPUs, so we could be entering a new normal entirely.


I am starting to see this as well.

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 4:35 pm to
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I’m so glad I got the 4080 super

As always, it comes down to whether your hardware is doing what you currently need it to do. The only game I'm actively putting off until my next hardware upgrade is a replay of CP2077 with PL. Other than that, my 3080 is still chewing up pretty much anything I throw at it, so it's not causing me any discomfort to wait. But at which point an upgrade will give you meaningful uplift, pull the trigger. Waiting for the next big thing is a never ending trap.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:14 am to
Have you done the FSR mod yet?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/10/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Have you done the FSR mod yet?

I’ve not. I’m not currently on the frame gen bandwagon in its current iteration, and I vastly prefer DLSS to FSR without frame gen.

I would be curious to hear reviews from anyone who has, though.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Our source on the Computex show floor tells us AMD plans to launch 9000X3D processors in September. This matches the staggered release of X870E motherboards that we anticipate will arrive the same month. There’s no hard indication of which CPUs will arrive first, but an educated guess from historical releases suggests it’ll likely start with Ryzen 9 9950X3D and possibly Ryzen 9 9900X3D.
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