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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:00 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:00 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:47 pm to ILikeLSUToo
You guys are my near daily reminder of why I never want to get married. 
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:41 pm to UltimateHog
Hey y'all haven't posted in here yet so I don't know if it's been talked about yet, but...
I plan to do my first build towards the end of July... Waiting on Rx480.
Question. Does anybody know how long it'll take for the brands to get out there cards, i.e. MSI, EVGA, etc??
I know the demand will be ridiculous for the first 2-3 weeks, but I think I'd rather wait for the brands tweaked cards.
I plan to do my first build towards the end of July... Waiting on Rx480.
Question. Does anybody know how long it'll take for the brands to get out there cards, i.e. MSI, EVGA, etc??
I know the demand will be ridiculous for the first 2-3 weeks, but I think I'd rather wait for the brands tweaked cards.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:23 am to USAF Hart
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how long before the 960s and the like drop to below $100?
For new cards, probably never, not before it's discontinued. Even a 750 Ti is barely less than $100 nowadays. But, you can find pretty good deals on used cards on ebay.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:31 am to LSU Coyote
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N5X has been a disappointment recently with battery life and performance.
I'm going to be making the switch to Fi, but I plan to bring my N6 with me and upgrade to the next-gen Nexus lineup that HTC should be manufacturing because I've not heard many good things about the N5X, and I don't want a phablet phone (re: 6p) again.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:54 am to Hulkklogan
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I'm going to be making the switch to Fi, but I plan to bring my N6 with me and upgrade to the next-gen Nexus lineup that HTC should be manufacturing because I've not heard many good things about the N5X, and I don't want a phablet phone (re: 6p) again.
I have a Nexus 6 also which is not being used. Loved the screen, just hated the size and camera.
Screen is really awesome though.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:10 pm to LSU Coyote
Crazy to think i've owned every one of those chips or cards except the GP-104. That is going back all the way to 2010 and before that was a 270. That seems like forever ago.
Its no wonder that some of us just are exhausted from upgrading yearly or multiple times in a year. We have been doing it for such a long time, losses its spark after a while and becomes work.
techspot - 6 Gens of Geforce cards benchmarked
Its no wonder that some of us just are exhausted from upgrading yearly or multiple times in a year. We have been doing it for such a long time, losses its spark after a while and becomes work.
techspot - 6 Gens of Geforce cards benchmarked
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:25 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Sorry, just saw this reply.. Are used GPUs worth purchasing off Ebay?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:30 pm to USAF Hart
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Sorry, just saw this reply.. Are used GPUs worth purchasing off Ebay?
Worth it? Yes. If you want to buy older GPUs buy a used GPU off eBay. I have purchased new GPUs from eBay at release of new architectures but never used.
Saying that we have all sold used GPUs which are in perfect working order. So just buy one from a reputable seller.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:46 pm to LSU Coyote
Yea. Just looking to upgrade since I have a 750Ti right now. I'll need to figure out which fits my CPU.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:31 pm to USAF Hart
I'm loving my GTX960. I went with EVGA 4GB version, although after watching stuff on Youtube I now know that there really isn't a performance difference between the 2GB and 4GB versions.. Could have saved a couple of bucks.
Anyway, the GTX960 works really well for budget 1080p gaming. I play LoL, SC2, Tera, CS:GO all at maxed out settings at 1080p and it smashes all of them. The only time my FPS gets kind of low is in major cities and battle arenas in Tera.. but I think that's because the game's poorly optimized. I am planning on trying out BF4 and GTAV in the relatively near future, and I hope it knocks those out of the park as well.
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Big thanks to ilike and whoever else gave me some recommendations on a budget rig.
Anyway, the GTX960 works really well for budget 1080p gaming. I play LoL, SC2, Tera, CS:GO all at maxed out settings at 1080p and it smashes all of them. The only time my FPS gets kind of low is in major cities and battle arenas in Tera.. but I think that's because the game's poorly optimized. I am planning on trying out BF4 and GTAV in the relatively near future, and I hope it knocks those out of the park as well.
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Big thanks to ilike and whoever else gave me some recommendations on a budget rig.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:55 pm to Hulkklogan
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I'm loving my GTX960. I went with EVGA 4GB version, although after watching stuff on Youtube I now know that there really isn't a performance difference between the 2GB and 4GB versions.. Could have saved a couple of bucks.
There is no performance difference until your game wants to buffer above 2048MB of VRAM.
What is the chip in the 960? Its Kepler or Maxwell? GM-206?
Edt: Older first gen Maxwell that was released a year before GTX980/970. It is GM-108.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:04 pm to Hulkklogan
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The only time my FPS gets kind of low is in major cities and battle arenas in Tera.. but I think that's because the game's poorly optimized. I am planning on trying out BF4 and GTAV in the relatively near future, and I hope it knocks those out of the park as well.
What CPU you went with?
I'm learning more and more that some networking protocols are heavily impacted by CPU performance. Really not IPC but available cores. Some this is where true physical quad cores and quad cores with hyper threading are useful if you game online.
The issue is more than likely the game's servers or ISP but there is a chance it being CPU performance, like a 0.5% chance.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:08 pm to LSU Coyote
Frankly, I don't know much about video cards or most components in general. I know the components, what they are, and what they do in general, but I don't keep up with hardware specs until it's time for me to put something together, then I do a little research and piece something together, then ask enthusiasts what they think.
This video did a great job of explaining the difference for some games. Basically, the extra VRAM is unnecessary for me since I don't play any memory-intensive games like AC:U or FC4. This is why I want to try some harsher games like BF4 and BF:Hardline.
LINK
This video did a great job of explaining the difference for some games. Basically, the extra VRAM is unnecessary for me since I don't play any memory-intensive games like AC:U or FC4. This is why I want to try some harsher games like BF4 and BF:Hardline.
LINK
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:15 pm to LSU Coyote
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Graduate students at UCDavis have designed and produced a thousand-core CPU at IBM's facilities. The processor is manufactured on their 32nm process, which is quite old -- about half-way between NVIDIA's Fermi and Kepler if viewed from a GPU perspective. Its die area is not listed, though, but we've reached out to their press contact for more information. The chip can be clocked up to 1.78 GHz, yielding 1.78 teraops of theoretical performance.
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"Big Fermi" uses 3 billion transistors to achieve 1.5 TFLOPs when operating on 32 pieces of data simultaneously (see below). This processor does 1.78 teraops with 0.621 billion transistors.
PCPer - 1000core CPU
So GF-100 was a pretty big leap forward in compute power and this chip is beating it. What I don't understand is 1.5Tera Flops vs 1.78Tera Ops. Floating point and operations are not the same, but which is harder to acheieve.. operations but how and why are they comparing the 2?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:18 pm to Hulkklogan
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This video did a great job of explaining the difference for some games. Basically, the extra VRAM is unnecessary for me since I don't play any memory-intensive games like AC:U or FC4. This is why I want to try some harsher games like BF4 and BF:Hardline.
Yep this is true.
BF4 will buffer a pretty large amount of VRAM for online play. Would be a good test. I haven't played BF4 in years, so don't remember what it buffers for a 32man map. But in this case system RAM is just as important, I remember it hitting around 10GB system RAM during the launch week. They could have fixed this issue though.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:18 pm to LSU Coyote
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hitting around 10GB system RAM during the launch week.
Dear god
I only have 8GB RAM
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:40 pm to Hulkklogan
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Dear god I only have 8GB RAM
Don't take my word on this. I just remember it being pretty high at launch.
LINK
Windows will try to adjust before crashing, but this comes at a performance hit. 8GB seems to be enough but it is pushing it.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:00 pm to LSU Coyote
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This is a saga for the ages and a snit worthy of any 2 year old child. 11 years ago AMD filed suit against Intel citing questionable business tactics Intel had been using worldwide. Intel was offering discounted parts to retailers if they would use Intel chips exclusively. For instance, if a company like Dell offered an AMD alternative then Intel would raise the price of every Intel component sold to Dell across the board. This is, of course, illegal.
The court cases were settled in 2009, in the US Intel agreed to pay AMD $1.25 billion USD to settle all outstanding court cases in the US and several overseas. In the UK there was a seperate court case which also went against Intel, the courts there requiring Intel to pay AMD €1.06bn, the largest ever fine in the UK. Since then Intel has been fighting tooth and nail to find a way not to pay the fine and while they have not succeeded in their legal battle they have succeeded in not paying AMD one single cent. Their initial appeal was dismissed in 2014 but that has not stopped Intel from delaying the payment and as of today that fine still remains unpaid. The Inquirer posted today about their latest challenge to the ruling, Intel's legal team claims that it somehow unfair to be punished for unfair business practices.
Six years on and over 1 billion dollars that should be AMDs is still under a couch cushion in Intel's offices somewhere.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:12 pm to UltimateHog
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Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMD) is on a roll thanks to its RX480 chip hitting the perfect price point in a market where NVIDIA Corporation (NASDAQ:NVDA) has no significant answer when it comes to an equivalent price, i.e. performance GPU.
With production line photos and FireStrike scores readily available at various forums, the RX 480 can essentially push well above 1.6 GHZ, possibly contributing to far faster real world performance for its consumers than when it runs at stock on about 1.2 GHZ. More importantly, the RX 480 is an impressive performer at a fraction of the cost one would expect it to be at $199. It is, by far, one of the most power-efficient chips in the market available to users with a raw power draw of about 100W and remains generally cool at under 60 degrees mostly.
Based on the fact that it could essentially pull as much as 150 watts if required and remains generally stable at thermals remaining under 60, it could very well become an overclocker’s heaven. Also, given that it can do as much as 1.6 GHZ already and could potentially even push non-reference designs makes it a large issue for Nvidia’s GTX 1070, which is priced at $379, much higher for the reference design.
With idle temperatures of about 37.5 degrees and the GPU pushing just north of 62.7 degrees at full load while running stress tests, AMD has a winner at its hands which is going to be thermally stable, extremely power efficient, and would offer the best performance in several price ranges once it launches a week from today. The 4GB base model is expected to retail at about $199. The 8GB variant is expected to push to $229 as per confirmation by AMD Poland. AIB partners are expected to have custom cooler versions within a price range of $199-299 with various modifications, cooling solutions, and overclocking potential available across the board.
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