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re: Official League of Legends Thread
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:12 pm to Mahootney
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:12 pm to Mahootney
quote:The whole point was that Xmithie is a not a jungler that's going to get overwhelmed at Worlds, and that if Sven can perform well against someone of that level consistently, he's not going to be the death and decay of TSM like you made him out to be. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability.
I didn't circumvent shite. I responded to you changing the premise of my point from sven vs world class jungles to Sven vs xmithie.
I even tried to re-emphasize my point. But you keep wanting to talk about xmithie.
ETA: I should note that if we were having this conversation during the Spring Split I would have 100% agreed with you, but I've really liked the growth I've seen over the course of the Summer.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:17 pm
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:16 pm to Drewbie
Stop talking about xmithie and address the post that is straight copied and pasted again.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:16 pm to Drewbie
quote:
He performed extremely well on Maokai jungle this split as well as Zac.
Zac was and still is broken af though, that champ will be 100% pick/ban at Worlds and moreso on ban judging from LCK/LPL playoffs/gauntlet that isn't a champ you can lean on going in as it will rarely be available.
I would guess Sej/Jarvan will be played hard by him at the KR bootcamp, maybe Elise too as his grades on that champ are quite bad but it's still a strong champ.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:16 pm to Mahootney
quote:I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability. I simply disagreed with your point that Sven is some massive liability.
Stop talking about xmithie and address the post that is straight copied and pasted again.
See where I addressed it now?
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:19 pm to Drewbie
Still not addressed, dick.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:20 pm to Mahootney
quote:Your WHOLE point is that Sven is a liability on the Worlds stage. I disagree and have posted why. If you can't see that by now, I can't help you.
Still not addressed, dick.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:20 pm to UltimateHog
For sure, target ban Sven and you gimp tsm.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:23 pm to Drewbie
Creating a straw man, red herring, or spamming like a child definitely proves your point.
Saying you disagree isn't an adequate rebuttal.
Saying you disagree isn't an adequate rebuttal.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:24 pm to Mahootney
quote:
Saying you disagree isn't an adequate rebuttal.
quote:
Sven was 2/2/11, 0/0/7, and 4/2/16 in their wins in the Finals. The fact he'd adjusted enough as a jungler to know to camp bot when IMT was prioritizing it, that's something he wouldn't have done last year. Bot would have gotten smashed just like it did against RNG at Worlds because of the priority and Sven trying to apply pressure mid wouldn't be enough to overcome the deficit they gained bottom. There was a lot to like about Sven's play in the Finals. Definitely wouldn't label him as a liability.
Are you legally blind? Who's creating the strawman?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:27 pm to Drewbie
You.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:30 pm to Drewbie
quote:Once Again.
quote: I think the glaring weakness on the team is still Sven. Getting caught all around the map, and not being able to perform at a high level without his pocket picks is what got them in trouble at worlds last year. And it will be a major issue this year.
Thankfully, TSM has enough talent at other positions that they are still able to steam roll in NA, but I just don't see them being able to win worlds when there is such a large skill gap b/n Sven and the other elite junglers in the world.
"Win worlds."
"Skill gap between Sven and world class"
"If pocket picks banned".
Calling me blind or other names. Doesn't change the topic I posted.
Now, you may want to have a different discussion. That's fine. Leave the topic open for others to discuss.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:36 pm to Mahootney
How many times did he die stupidly invading in the Finals? That's why I brought it up. I used his most recent performances in the biggest stage possible to this point for my rebuttal. He performed well against a jungler that will also perform well at Worlds. Ergo, why I said I don't think he's as big of a liability as you say he is. The skill gap isn't so massive that he's just dead weight on the rift. This will now be the 3rd time I've posted my point very clearly.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:37 pm to Drewbie
Ban 2-3 junglers and he's trash.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:38 pm to Mahootney
You're supposed to bitch about how I didn't address the topic even though I clearly did.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:38 pm to UltimateHog
Jumping in here to say that I actually agree with UH on this EU lcs thing. That's gotta be one of the worst changes I have ever seen. Talk about killing basically any competition. The talent is going to be so spread out.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:39 pm to Greace
I can't even fathom it being sustainable from a production point of view. Riot would be running it at a major loss. That many studios, that many crews, for that small of viewership? There's no way.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:42 pm to Mahootney
quote:When a team actually does that, we'll see what happens. No one does, so it's not an issue to this point.
Ban 2-3 junglers and he's trash.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:43 pm to Greace
If Sven isn't even better than xmithie, no way is he going to be anything other than a liability at worlds.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:46 pm to Mahootney
You act like TSM lost because of Sven even last year. TSM lost because DL/Bio got fricking destroyed by Uzi/Mata. Yeah, Sven had a terrible Spring, but he's been much closer to regular form late in the summer and was extremely impactful in the Finals. You talk about his issues being constantly caught out, he died a total of 4 times in the 3 wins. This is such a ridiculous overreaction. No, I just will flat out say I don't think Sven is nearly as bad as you're making him out to be on a mechanical or macro level.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:49 pm to Drewbie
Your only hope is that bjerg or Kevin hard carries. Sven is gonna get target banned so hard.
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