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re: Official League of Legends Thread
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:02 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:02 pm to UltimateHog
That's because you suffer from the same autism Thoorin does.
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:03 pm to Drewbie
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He's a major reason their teamfighting was so good.
I agree. They are teamfighting so well right now too.
I find that he has played Gragas really well in the games I've seen.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:08 pm to Drewbie
quote:
That's because you suffer from the same autism TSM fans do.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:26 pm to Drewbie
A lot of Sven's engages were bad. And bio had to carry that burden. But maybe it was the calls that were made and he was just doing his job.
But, Xmithie is not a world class jungler.
I'm talking about Worlds. Not NA.
He is a liability on the worlds stage.
Don't be so quick to fan boy for TSM.
Sven is world class on a few junglers, but as we saw last year, when they ban out those champs, he isn't as good.
Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but if TSM gets out of groups, it won't be b/c Sven goes ham.
But, Xmithie is not a world class jungler.
I'm talking about Worlds. Not NA.
He is a liability on the worlds stage.
Don't be so quick to fan boy for TSM.
Sven is world class on a few junglers, but as we saw last year, when they ban out those champs, he isn't as good.
Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but if TSM gets out of groups, it won't be b/c Sven goes ham.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:54 pm to Mahootney
Xmithie was damn good this split in a region known for good junglers. Don't sell him so short.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:13 pm to Drewbie
BREAKING: EU LCS to split into 4 regions.
24 total teams in EU? They can't even field one 10 team league with quality competition how the frick will they muster 24 and not have 3/4 of the games be absolute shite quality? This is....weird.
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League of Legends developer Riot Games will reformat the European League Championship Series 2018 summer season to include four regions in a Champions League-inspired configuration, league sources told ESPN.
The league, which currently has 10 teams, will split into four separate regions -- London, Paris, Berlin and Barcelona, Spain -- sources said. Event spaces for those regions, excluding Berlin, have not been determined, but it is expected that Riot will secure it over the course of the next few months.
These new leagues will house six teams each, making it 24 total teams across all four regions. Participating teams will be granted a multi-year license from Riot Games to compete in the league, but a hard date on those licenses have not been established, sources said. This means teams won't have to fear the possibility of relegation from their domestic leagues.
The top two teams of each domestic league will automatically qualify into the greater league, which will run alongside the competitive seasons of the domestic league, similar to the Champions League, according to sources. The third and fourth place teams will compete in a play-in, while fifth and sixth will play in an open qualifier. The greater league will house a total of 16 teams, with a number of group stages and a double-elimination playoff bracket. Qualifications for the 2018 World Championship will include the winner of the greater league, as well as a Championship Points system similar to the one that currently exists.
24 total teams in EU? They can't even field one 10 team league with quality competition how the frick will they muster 24 and not have 3/4 of the games be absolute shite quality? This is....weird.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:24 pm to UltimateHog
They're basically just merging the EULCS with its Challenger League then spreading it out with a soccer-like format. It sounds like they're going to be playing a lot more games than NA teams, though.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:25 pm to Drewbie
I'm starting to be in Ultimate Hog's camp.
Dude. No offense, but you either aren't reading, or you are NA fan-boying it up.
Are you really telling me that Xmithie being "damn good" this split makes him anywhere near the caliber of Junglers like Peanut, Score, Ambition, Crash, ClearLove, and Karsa?
Dude. No offense, but you either aren't reading, or you are NA fan-boying it up.
Are you really telling me that Xmithie being "damn good" this split makes him anywhere near the caliber of Junglers like Peanut, Score, Ambition, Crash, ClearLove, and Karsa?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:28 pm to Drewbie
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They're basically just merging the EULCS with its Challenger League then spreading it out with a soccer-like format. It sounds like they're going to be playing a lot more games than NA teams, though.
That is SOOOO bad though, my god. Could you imagine doing that in NA, a tougher even if just by a little, region? The gap between NALCS and NACS is huuuuuge, so you are going to add even more challenger series teams to EULCS?
You are also taking out all the personality from it, will have to hire a bunch of new casters for each region, the lone quality of watching EULCS is Sjokz and RIP to that with the time zone differences you won't be able to use her but for 1 or 2 broadcasts in whichever region they put her.
I'm sorry but on the surface right now this seems like another stupid arse idea from Riot EU, which is par the course for them.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:36 pm to Mahootney
I can say with bold confidence that Xmithie was better than Peanut this split.
And I'm saying Xmithie was arguably the best jungler in NA t his split, and in the past that has shown to hold up well internationally thus NA's reputation of their only good native role being jungler.
And I'm saying Xmithie was arguably the best jungler in NA t his split, and in the past that has shown to hold up well internationally thus NA's reputation of their only good native role being jungler.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:43 pm to UltimateHog
I stopped watching EU in like Season 4 or 5.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:46 pm to Mahootney
I think most NA people did, viewership for EU has been dropping hard for awhile now.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:46 pm to Drewbie
Xmithie was the best jg in NA this year. And if any team doesn't have to worry about their JG performance on a world stage it IMT.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:48 pm to Jackie Chan
I was saying that TSM does. Sven isn't world class like Bjerg... and Top/Bot can hold their own even if they aren't top tier like Bjerg is.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:49 pm to Jackie Chan
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Xmithie was the best jg in NA this year.
Lets not go too far, he was the worst jg in NA spring split so while he was the best for summer you can't just forget about his awful spring when talking full year.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:55 pm to Mahootney
quote:You downplayed Xmithie to circumvent your initial point about Sven. Sven performing well against Xmithie doesn't bode well for that argument. Sven was 2/2/11, 0/0/7, and 4/2/16 in their wins in the Finals. The fact he'd adjusted enough as a jungler to know to camp bot when IMT was prioritizing it, that's something he wouldn't have done last year. Bot would have gotten smashed just like it did against RNG at Worlds because of the priority and Sven trying to apply pressure mid wouldn't be enough to overcome the deficit they gained bottom. There was a lot to like about Sven's play in the Finals. Definitely wouldn't label him as a liability. It's not fanboying if you have thought-out, logical reasoning for thinking the way you do, regardless of if you agree or not.
I was saying that TSM does.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:02 pm to Drewbie
Champion pool is his main concern atm, Gragas is far and above is best and most comfortable champion and there is a pretty big drop off to the next. Similar to the previous meta where is Lee was god tier and then a huge fall off to the next.
He can't go into Worlds looking to one trick Gragas.
He can't go into Worlds looking to one trick Gragas.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:08 pm to Drewbie
I didn't circumvent shite. I responded to you changing the premise of my point from sven vs world class jungles to Sven vs xmithie.
I even tried to re-emphasize my point. But you keep wanting to talk about xmithie.
I even tried to re-emphasize my point. But you keep wanting to talk about xmithie.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:09 pm to UltimateHog
quote:This I 100% agree with. If I was running pick/ban for the team playing TSM, I'd focus the hell out of Sven.
Champion pool is his main concern atm
quote:This, not so much. He performed extremely well on Maokai jungle this split as well as Zac. He had an 8.3 KDA on Zac this split going into that game in the Finals, it was just a bad game for TSM all around and Sven definitely didn't engage well, but he's definitely looked good on Zac more than not. Outside of those 3 champs though, you're right about the dropoff. His Elise isn't great and everything after that with a decent playrate is just flat out bad.
Gragas is far and above is best and most comfortable champion and there is a pretty big drop off to the next.
I will note that the one game he actually did play Jarvan jungle, he won and did fairly well. I wonder if that'll be something we see more of at Worlds if it stays as strong as it is.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:10 pm to Mahootney
quote:"Win worlds."
I think the glaring weakness on the team is still Sven. Getting caught all around the map, and not being able to perform at a high level without his pocket picks is what got them in trouble at worlds last year. And it will be a major issue this year.
Thankfully, TSM has enough talent at other positions that they are still able to steam roll in NA, but I just don't see them being able to win worlds when there is such a large skill gap b/n Sven and the other elite junglers in the world.
"Skill gap between Sven and world class"
"If pocket picks banned".
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 5:12 pm
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