re: Metaphor ReFantazio: Anyone else playing?

It’s kinda of the basic rules of persona

So party members bonds first
Then other bond people who are non party (with the exception of Maria get her to lvl 2 or 3 where cooking doesn’t take time asap)
Eventually you’ll need stat checks to up them and you’ll want everyone to get full rank it’s a spoiler why I guess but it’s the same as in every persona game when a party member gets full ranks.

Good ways of upping your social stats in the guntlet runnner or whatever they are called is reading the books in gauntlet runner, you can save scum for the ones that have optional answers for most points.

Debate other candidates in town (again save scum)

A lot of things you do naturally will give your courage and wisdom but in the first town outside of the starting main city there is a courage challenge you can do 3 t times with each one being less likely to work but gives points to courage in 4,6,8 respectfully. Just save scum them. Imagination is likely the hardest one but one party member I won’t name since you said you’re barely post demo can boost it like +7-8 twice during trips on the runner depending on your answers. You can also re read books but you won’t get the completion bonus.

This game isn’t near as tight as persona 5 for example. I had all 16 bonds done all side quest all collesium etc with like 14 days before the final confrontation.

Btw if you care about unlocking new game + ensure you get the good ending of which is one of four. It’s not hard to figure it out they’re signpoasted pretty hard. Just answer in line with all the game has reinforced to that point (as just like persona there’s one ending that can happen a full like 40 days early.)

I hope this helped you some, I tried to do it without spoilers. You really don’t need to neglect your social stats if you want to max bond all your party members unlocking something near end game for those that have it. The later the ones that join the higher your wisdom or knowledge or what have you will need to be to max bond

I beat the game twice now once on ng+. It’s by far the best game this year I think even if I like rebirth better because Ff is my fave franchise.

Just remember, you’ll have a lot of time to do stuff. Make sure you check the pantry daily in the gauntlet runner. If you have any more questions you can ask I’ll try to answer idk how far along you are or how many party members you have yet. It’s follows the exact same structure of persona 5. Get a deadline for a big quest, during it typically a new party member unlocks, repeat.

Again, I’ve never played a persona or smt so any reference to that is kind an out the window for me. Seems like consensus is bonds should take priority.

For dungeons taking multiple days, I don’t think I’ve come across that. I assume it will let me know somehow when it can take multiple days or if a day has changed inside. So just save scum before the entering if it will mess something up

I just finished the martira story dungeon and then saved and quit. There was a timer for part of it but that’s about the only thing I’ve seen in dungeons so far as far as finishing in a certain amount of time.

Earlier I mentioned not noticing a multiple day mechanic in the cathedral dungeon with the necromancer. I grinded a decent bit for mp there and it was a relatively large dungeon compared to anything else I’ve seen

ETA all I’m really looking for is a priority breakdown on what to do so that I’m not fricking myself over later in the game. Having never played an Atlus game I’m getting a bit of anxiety thinking “oh earlier in the game when I didn’t know what I was doing I talked to this random npc simply to raise an attribute a little and now maybe I’ve screwed myself for later having wasted some time”

I’m not sure all that’s necessary. It’s just 3 of us posting in this thread now.

So when you talk about doing the dungeon in one day, how do you skip a day? Is it a spend too much time there thing or do you have to leave and come back? How does that happen? That’s what I’m really curious about right now

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And someone mentioned it, but the game changer for me is being able to kill weaker enemies without having to go into the turn based mode.

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You can do this in Persona 5. I forget which confidant you level but once you do anything with a blue or green aura can be insta-killed

If you can get to Madarame's Palace then just Hold Up the Shiki-Ouji enemies over and over. I forget their weakness, nuclear maybe? But you get multiple hold ups per battle and end up with 40k+. You'll leave the madarame with enough money to buy everything in the game

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You can do this in Persona 5. I forget which confidant you level but once you do anything with a blue or green aura can be insta-killed

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I recently played 3 reload. Some of those weak enemies in the beginning you would just hit once and they are dead. Just was a waste of time to constantly stop the game to go into battle mode for that.

Just got out of the “human” worms belly. Failed the first try on the timed section because I wasn’t banking on there being a mini boss at the very end. 2nd time I almost fricked up again, killed the mini boss with 11 seconds to spare. I had to skip over some treasure to make it, hope I didn’t miss anything crucial

This game is addicting as hell. I find myself looking ahead in the week and to when I can play again. Haven’t been
Like this since probably horizon zero dawn

Have Healer mastered for Strohl, Mage mastered for Protagonist, and Knight mastered for Hulkenberg. Working on warrior for Strohl, Seeker for Protagonist, and Brawler for Hulkenberg all around level 10. Gunner looks sweet

Do you still need help with anything? It should be easy to figure out by just going through what I mean by doing the main dungeons in one day and how important it is. But I can answer anything else tou or anyone else needs. I’ve finished it once on hard and once on ng+ in merciless.

I will say there is a key moment that happens late in the game where you can get your first bad ending if you deliberately choose the bad prompts (this is like 40 days before the actual end.) and assuming you don’t the hero will Auto Unlock the best archetype in the game by far. Going back to why I said it’s important to max party bonds just like in persona 5 when you get one to rank 10 their persona goes to a rank two version, in methaphor after that event which the hero’s Auto Unlock’s maxed party members will have a archetype in the same space in the layout that is more or less their ultimate version but you have to have certain other archetypes maxed or at a certain rank.

For me most of these came natural since I mostly used hulkenburg under the knight and mage tree which are one of the only ones with split endings with two archetypes (dark knight and paladin for instance being the two stage 3 for knight). If you want to ensure you can get these for all 8 members I’d maybe look up what the requirements are so you can ensure you are on that track