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re: Madden 17
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:30 pm to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:30 pm to 7thWardTiger
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good. Sounds cheesy as frick and I hate ppl that play like you.
Lol. I don't think you'll mind when aranda backs key off the line against Wisconsin in 10 days pre snap after the offense calls a play.
That wouldn't be allowed in madden this year if he started on the line with his hand in the dirt
I can understand how on offense you don't want the defense to be able to confuse you
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 11:33 pm
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:34 pm to Lsuchs
Not many people here agree with you man.. Be real, it's cheese
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:40 pm to Weagle25
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This is why no one cares about your complaint
One example of 10 I mentioned. Plus people can do that with their middle linebacker still once they smell the play out which doesn't happen pre snap in real life (and you would if you knew a screen was coming). You just don't like it because it's my DE though I'm playing OLB with him?
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Also frowned upon
I agree, I don't do this either. But it's legal in football. Why wouldn't you be able to do it in madden? Some coaches do it in real life
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Don't claim the games ruined because "it's not real football" and then complain it won't let you do something that doesn't happen in football
Edge rushers don't move around pre snap in real football? They never stand up and run to other side of the Dline based on a motion? They aren't allowed to stand up and step back. All of this happens.
A lot of teams do this the majority of the game and just call don't call it a 4 man front. I just like the plays in nickel and dime better than the 1-3-7 type formations and use my end as an OLB.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:43 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Not many people here agree with you man.. Be real, it's cheese
Yes, out of the 4 of us here discussing it 3 don't play like that.
LSU will next week. Aranda just has the option to call it a 3 man front even if Arden's hand is in the dirt. I like the plays in nickel and play it like a 3 man front but I don't have the option to move around at all like an OLB, even though that is exactly how I'm playing
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:45 pm to Lsuchs
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Lol. I don't think you'll mind when aranda backs key off the line against Wisconsin in 10 days pre snap after the offense calls a play.
That wouldn't be allowed in madden this year if he started on the line with his hand in the dirt
If Aranda instructs Arden Key to stand up, step back, and run to the other side of the field pre snap, I'll personally prevent him from getting on the team plane back home
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:47 pm to 7thWardTiger
Can't wait for the game
I'll keep this simple. In madden if your hand is in the dirt at any point on the edge:
pre snap you cannot stand up, you cannot back off the line, you cannot move across the formation
There are formations where you start standing up however as an edge rusher
So if at any point key or bower have their hand in the dirt and: stand up and back off the line, or jog across the formation after motion, then aranda is cheese. Bc that cannot happen in this madden
I'll keep this simple. In madden if your hand is in the dirt at any point on the edge:
pre snap you cannot stand up, you cannot back off the line, you cannot move across the formation
There are formations where you start standing up however as an edge rusher
So if at any point key or bower have their hand in the dirt and: stand up and back off the line, or jog across the formation after motion, then aranda is cheese. Bc that cannot happen in this madden
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 12:04 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:01 am to Lsuchs
No I'm being serious lol. I literally use the DE every play, minus one or two where I use the safety. I also like to move him out wide so I can build up a little steam first
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:04 am to Lionnation1993
Same here
Apparently it's not real football to start in a 4 man front then have an "end" drop off the line pre snap and play coverage/LB. Or drop off then move somewhere else and get back down in the dirt. Madden does not allow a player to move after his hand starts In the dirt, besides hopelessly inching left or right as far as it will let you
We'll see how we play September 3rd
Apparently it's not real football to start in a 4 man front then have an "end" drop off the line pre snap and play coverage/LB. Or drop off then move somewhere else and get back down in the dirt. Madden does not allow a player to move after his hand starts In the dirt, besides hopelessly inching left or right as far as it will let you
We'll see how we play September 3rd
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 12:10 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:09 am to Lsuchs
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One example of 10 I mentioned. Plus people can do that with their middle linebacker still once they smell the play out which doesn't happen pre snap in real life (and you would if you knew a screen was coming). You just don't like it because it's my DE though I'm playing OLB with him?
Your other 9 examples can still be done. You just are too lazy to press more buttons presnap.
You don't automatically get engaged off the line. I just had a game earlier where all he was doing was dumping to the flats and throwing screens. I stopped him with my DE People can do it with their MLB but that doesn't mean people will be happy about it. Nobody is going to cry over you not being able to run across the formation with your DE instead of LB.
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I agree, I don't do this either. But it's legal in football. Why wouldn't you be able to do it in madden? Some coaches do it in real life
Well the goal of Madden is to have it play realistically. Just because you can technically do it under the rules doesn't mean it actually happens in football.
I'm all for you doing whatever works in Madden even things considered cheese because I take it as part of the game. I just find your argument funny because you want the game to be realistic until it effects your strategy
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 12:10 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:14 am to Weagle25
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Your other 9 examples can still be done
It's ok man you obviously haven't tried it. I formation sub my olbs to DEs in nickel, dime, and all 4 man fronts.
It is not physically possible to reposition them pre snap if the start w their in the dirt. You can bail to the other side or haul arse to where you want to be after the snap if you press 4 buttons that don't allow you to be immediately snatched by the OL. Then when he switches the direction of his play and quick snaps I'd have to press 8 buttons instead of simply switching players
What I run in the game is a 4 man line, and fairly often depending on the O I will stand up and move, or stay up and play LB. you can't do it now unless you start in a formation like a 1-3-7, or 2-3-6 where the edge guy isn't classified as DE
That's all I'm saying lol
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Nobody is going to cry over you not being able to run across the formation with your DE instead of LB.
My DE is my LB! I just like the coverages in regular dime over the exotic one. They aren't all the same.
Plus the 2-3-6 dime only two guys play with their hand in the dirt... What wrong with starting in a play with 4 in the dirt and dropping one to a weak spot in your coverage pre play as a LB
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 12:34 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:43 am to Lsuchs
Well now you're just a record player. We all know that. You've said that 10 times.
Line up in your usual formations and adjust what he supposed to do either by changing it presnap or doing it manually after the snap.
We don't give a shite that you can't run to the complete other side of the formation.
Line up in your usual formations and adjust what he supposed to do either by changing it presnap or doing it manually after the snap.
We don't give a shite that you can't run to the complete other side of the formation.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:00 am to Weagle25
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You've said that 10 times
Ive had to answer this 10x
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either by changing it presnap or doing it manually after the snap.
My entire point is I cant move pre-snap. That's it. It most definitely affects your ability to defend..
I don't expect you to understand exactly how much since you don't play that way, but changing calls pre-snap does not fix it. It just helps you avoid getting stuck on the OL
-You don't thinks it's a big deal deal, people that play OLB with their DEs do.
-some think it's cheese, I think it's the exact same player utilization as other formations. Only difference is base nickel and dime have the better plays IMO.
Agree to disagree. It's all good
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 2:39 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:38 am to Lsuchs
They still haven't fixed the challenge system.
It was 4th and 1 and I caught the ball past the marker and got hit immediately and fumbled. I think I was down.
Tried to challenge but couldn't
I also hate when I play the Cowboys and have to play with both teams in white.
It was 4th and 1 and I caught the ball past the marker and got hit immediately and fumbled. I think I was down.
Tried to challenge but couldn't
I also hate when I play the Cowboys and have to play with both teams in white.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 2:42 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:41 am to Weagle25
I had a QB throw it into the goal posts and the ball bounced back in play.
The guys were fighting for the ball and the whistle didn't blow until it hit the ground. That obviously won't come up much but that would be a hell of a way to lose.
The guys were fighting for the ball and the whistle didn't blow until it hit the ground. That obviously won't come up much but that would be a hell of a way to lose.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:31 am to Weagle25
Damn that's one way to lose.
I have forced two rage quits with draft champions so far. Only two games in too100% success rate
I really like how fluid this year's game is. From QB pressure to deep passes to blending zone coverage. I noticed LBs aren't Olympic track stars. Feels like my guys are moving in mud going from point A to point B compared to '16.
Eta: Lol just got a third quit. These guys just run cover three thinking it covers everything. I'll throw stick five times in a row and they don't change anything. Then I score. They DC
I have forced two rage quits with draft champions so far. Only two games in too100% success rate
I really like how fluid this year's game is. From QB pressure to deep passes to blending zone coverage. I noticed LBs aren't Olympic track stars. Feels like my guys are moving in mud going from point A to point B compared to '16.
Eta: Lol just got a third quit. These guys just run cover three thinking it covers everything. I'll throw stick five times in a row and they don't change anything. Then I score. They DC
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 4:16 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:19 am to theducks
Came back down 3-14 in the championship game. The guy mixed up his coverages and had a stout enough defense that I couldn't find players reliably. On offense Elway kept making pinpoint passes on the run. But unlike my opponents, I keep my head up and change things around. I started to spy with one end and then drop the other into a zone (hey lsuchs, you can drop guys into zone and what not successfully) then I'd play my LB over the middle in the yellow zone. I'd cover the middle then flair outside once he would scramble. Went up 17-14 and forced a fumble and a turnover on downs. He quit. Shame.
Went four for four tonight, all being quits. Was a good night.
Went four for four tonight, all being quits. Was a good night.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:23 am to theducks
So I created my coach of the Titans for my franchise and I now officially have Mariota in Chip Kelly's offense.
Not sure how Demarco Murray feels about it though....
Mariota is so much fun in this game. Broke a 50 yard TD run in the last minute of a tied game with him.
Not sure how Demarco Murray feels about it though....
Mariota is so much fun in this game. Broke a 50 yard TD run in the last minute of a tied game with him.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:32 am to RTR America
Can't kick a field goal for shite
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:39 am to USAF Hart
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I'm glad they went with a harder kicking game this year.
It's just different for now. Like anything else, the more time you spend playing it the easier it will become.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:49 am to CHiPs25
At first I sucked at kicking but I have the hang of it now.
Love the new running engine or whatever. It's awesome
Love the new running engine or whatever. It's awesome
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