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Legendary drops: the next generation is dead on arrival
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:17 am
Amazing video and he’s dead right. Sony and Microsoft can push forward with their plans for a new console generation with prices toppin 1000$ but the players will not follow them
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:29 am to td01241
I don’t understand how people expect consoles to stay $500 forever while also keeping similar hardware standards. It’s just not realistic—especially in a world where hardware is being hit harder than most by inflation due to the AI boom.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:40 am to Dixie Normus
Microsoft is the 7th most valuable company on planet earth
Sony is the 140th most valuable
They could easily do as they have always done which is sell consoles at a loss (which I sure they are still doing even at 1000 but an ever bigger loss) and make it up through software which has been the way it has worked since consoles became a thing.
Sony is making more money than it ever has in its entire history of existence but we are supposed to believe they need to raise prices?
Congrats on your fell for it again award
Sony is the 140th most valuable
They could easily do as they have always done which is sell consoles at a loss (which I sure they are still doing even at 1000 but an ever bigger loss) and make it up through software which has been the way it has worked since consoles became a thing.
Sony is making more money than it ever has in its entire history of existence but we are supposed to believe they need to raise prices?
Congrats on your fell for it again award
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:52 am to td01241
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Amazing video and he’s dead right. Sony and Microsoft can push forward with their plans for a new console generation with prices toppin 1000$ but the players will not follow them
Really just boils down to if there is a disc drive/physical media option for me. I don't think the price point is insane and am willing to pay it.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:54 am to td01241
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They could easily do as they have always done which is sell consoles at a loss (which I sure they are still doing even at 1000 but an ever bigger loss) and make it up through software which has been the way it has worked since consoles became a thing.
I do think MS is at least trying to provide more value for that price point if they are still going to stick with the "plays both PC and console games" announcement. If it really will play PC games, it's going to be one of the more affordable "plug and play" gaming PC options on the market.
I've seen some rumors that they might be backpedaling on that, but no indication in any public interviews.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:56 am
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:58 am to imjustafatkid
People who post on this board are major gamers and would pay the price point if they actually even made a justification for it which imo they still have yet to do and I don’t believe they have even made a dent in fully harnessing the PS5 let alone making a new console.
You know who isn’t going to pay it? The normie when gets insane sticker shock.
And they need the normies
You know who isn’t going to pay it? The normie when gets insane sticker shock.
And they need the normies
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:10 pm to td01241
I think both get delayed to 2029. It's not a matter of price, they can't get the chips at any price. 64gb of ram is 1,000 dollars by itself, and both would need that.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:45 pm to td01241
This isn’t a fell for it thing. It’s basic economics. Those companies are not valuable because of their gaming departments (Sony does rely on gaming more, but still a minority of its business) so I don’t know why you think that is a gotcha.
Yes, consoles have historically been loss leaders. However, you have to make money on the games to use that model. Game prices have only gone up $10/game while the cost to make games has increased just as astronomically as making a console.
I like video games. All the better if they’re cheap. But, at the same time, it’s not realistic to expect it both ways indefinitely. These companies don’t get to go to their board of directors and pitch entire divisions that operate at a loss because just because we like games. They have to make financial decisions and that’s just reality.
Yes, consoles have historically been loss leaders. However, you have to make money on the games to use that model. Game prices have only gone up $10/game while the cost to make games has increased just as astronomically as making a console.
I like video games. All the better if they’re cheap. But, at the same time, it’s not realistic to expect it both ways indefinitely. These companies don’t get to go to their board of directors and pitch entire divisions that operate at a loss because just because we like games. They have to make financial decisions and that’s just reality.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:46 pm to td01241
The number of hours of entertainment I get out of a console easily makes it the best entertainment value there is.
I played through BG3 in 250 hrs. That is CHEAP entertainment in the grand scheme.
I played through BG3 in 250 hrs. That is CHEAP entertainment in the grand scheme.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 1:30 pm to td01241
People will pay. I guarantee you, just like every other company, they've done the math on this. Even if not as many people buy, they're making more per console.
The USA is essentially becoming a playground for the rich.
The USA is essentially becoming a playground for the rich.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 1:31 pm to j1897
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I think both get delayed to 2029. It's not a matter of price, they can't get the chips at any price. 64gb of ram is 1,000 dollars by itself, and both would need that.
I highly doubt the new consoles will ship with 64gb of ram...come on man. It'll be 32gb if we're lucky.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 1:37 pm to BulldogXero
I agree people will pay
Theyre just going to be buying mid range gaming pcs instead of consoles.
I have both a ps5 pro and a gaming pc that id describe as middle of the road power wise. The entire appeal of a console over that of a gaming pc, historically at least, were reasons including they were much cheaper not very slightly less expensive, the convenience and ease of use being just a system you plug and play into your tv easily but you can now do the same thing with your pc if you want to play it on the TV go right ahead, and physical media for those who care about it or enjoy collecting their games.
When the PS6 eventually come it will be at minimum 1000$. My personal guess is they will have two skews one at 1000 with pretty low storage capacity just like they did initially with the ps5, and a higher tier skew for 1250 that has 2 TB of storage. At this price point you are already starting to tread dangerously close to a perfectly capable but not anywhere top of the line type of gaming pc.
Since PlayStation is also killing physical disc if youre going to be forced into a digital only platform then PC provides so much better of an option as it is an open platform and Steam is a much better and more trustworthy company than Sony, and Sony hasnt produced any 1st party games from their own studios this entire generation that would justify choosing a shittier closed platform that has the worse network security of any of them.
People are just going to buy gaming pc's. If they decided anyone actually needs a next gen console as imo theyre pretty useless and unnecessary. We are no where close to even have pushed the ps5 system to its limits.
Theyre just going to be buying mid range gaming pcs instead of consoles.
I have both a ps5 pro and a gaming pc that id describe as middle of the road power wise. The entire appeal of a console over that of a gaming pc, historically at least, were reasons including they were much cheaper not very slightly less expensive, the convenience and ease of use being just a system you plug and play into your tv easily but you can now do the same thing with your pc if you want to play it on the TV go right ahead, and physical media for those who care about it or enjoy collecting their games.
When the PS6 eventually come it will be at minimum 1000$. My personal guess is they will have two skews one at 1000 with pretty low storage capacity just like they did initially with the ps5, and a higher tier skew for 1250 that has 2 TB of storage. At this price point you are already starting to tread dangerously close to a perfectly capable but not anywhere top of the line type of gaming pc.
Since PlayStation is also killing physical disc if youre going to be forced into a digital only platform then PC provides so much better of an option as it is an open platform and Steam is a much better and more trustworthy company than Sony, and Sony hasnt produced any 1st party games from their own studios this entire generation that would justify choosing a shittier closed platform that has the worse network security of any of them.
People are just going to buy gaming pc's. If they decided anyone actually needs a next gen console as imo theyre pretty useless and unnecessary. We are no where close to even have pushed the ps5 system to its limits.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:11 pm to td01241
I’m likely not jumping into the next gen foray as long as the ps5 is operating well. They were still making ps4 versions of games into 2024. If they do the same during the next gen, there will be no reason for me to spend the $1000 or whatever to upgrade unless the 5 craps out on me
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:34 pm to Dixie Normus
In the video, he cites Sony and Xbox's own numbers
A console selling for over a grand sells significantly less than the current gen.
That is the root point of the video
It is a real pickle for consoles
You can't sell consoles at a loss, if you can't make it back on licensing fees and game sales.
That is losing money from both ends
A console selling for over a grand sells significantly less than the current gen.
That is the root point of the video
It is a real pickle for consoles
You can't sell consoles at a loss, if you can't make it back on licensing fees and game sales.
That is losing money from both ends
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:02 pm to VinegarStrokes
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I’m likely not jumping into the next gen foray as long as the ps5 is operating well. They were still making ps4 versions of games into 2024. If they do the same during the next gen, there will be no reason for me to spend the $1000 or whatever to upgrade unless the 5 craps out on me
I am usually a day 1 buyer for new systems dating back to SNES. I got the new xbox and ps5 as close to day 1 as I could because of covid. Perfect storm but I do think I might slow up on the next gen and just play xbox/ps5 and really take advantage of the switch 2 (haven't owned a nintendo system since the gamecube).
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:14 pm to DoomGuy504
I’ve been trailing further behind the leading edge the last few years and I think I may be skipping a generation entirely at this point.
$300 for a Switch or a PS4 seems so long ago.
$300 for a Switch or a PS4 seems so long ago.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:18 pm to VinegarStrokes
I just don’t see the need for a console generation refresh. Graphics have reached a stage where they should just stop. Games can look amazing now in many different ways. You can do heavy realism, all different kinds of stylized art styles, a blend of the two, etc. Say what you will about the ff7 remake trilogy I think everyone can agree visually at least it is a very beautiful game and it is running on Unreal Engine 4 still even for the third game.
The only thing I can remotely think of that would justify it is if they were going to use the increase in capability not for better graphics or fricking facial hair folicules or a better reflections or some shite but actually optimizing their games and bringing them to stellar levels of performance with a bear minimum being all games run at 60 FPS AND HDR enabled visuals and maybe a option to crank it to 90 frames while disabling HDR and playing it at 1080p
The only thing I can remotely think of that would justify it is if they were going to use the increase in capability not for better graphics or fricking facial hair folicules or a better reflections or some shite but actually optimizing their games and bringing them to stellar levels of performance with a bear minimum being all games run at 60 FPS AND HDR enabled visuals and maybe a option to crank it to 90 frames while disabling HDR and playing it at 1080p
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:05 am to td01241
The dude is almost 100% negative. He is the video game equivalent of Nerdrotic. Nonstop negativity. I used to watch him but I can't anymore. And just like Nerdrotic, it isn't that I disagree with him but I can't take his constant whining about everything.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 1:06 am
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:37 am to TigerMyth36
If you sort his videos by most viewed his top 10 viewed vids is a literal split 5-5 of videos being heavily critical about something and praising something or positively reviewing a game.
Also, I noticed you didnt mention anything he is wrong about. Whining implies the things he critiques are either making mountains out of mole hills or just untrue, which is never the case. Sometimes things are just bad, or companies engage in shitty practices that are anti consumer, and its both cathartic and helpful to have someone give voice to that with a large platform.
I think you are just engaging in confirmation bias though. He does positive content all the time
Also, I noticed you didnt mention anything he is wrong about. Whining implies the things he critiques are either making mountains out of mole hills or just untrue, which is never the case. Sometimes things are just bad, or companies engage in shitty practices that are anti consumer, and its both cathartic and helpful to have someone give voice to that with a large platform.
I think you are just engaging in confirmation bias though. He does positive content all the time
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 7:17 am
Posted on 9/12/26 at 12:50 pm to td01241
Not only did I not mention anything I disagree with, I straight up SAID I agree with him and Nerdrotic but their constant negativity wears me out. Not my fault the Youtube algorithm only shows me his negative posts.
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