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Is the Switch current generation or really early next generation?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:31 pm
I ask this just wanting to know when everyone thinks the PS5 and Xbox whatever weird alphanumeric title they decide to call it comes out. I don’t really feel like the Wii U was a stand alone console as much as just a Wii expansion or a Switch beta.
And also, how close is Microsoft to abandoning the console market and just focusing on PC? Does anyone think that’s where Microsoft is headed?
And also, how close is Microsoft to abandoning the console market and just focusing on PC? Does anyone think that’s where Microsoft is headed?
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:35 pm to FourThreeForty
Screwed, that's what Nintendo will be.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:14 pm to FourThreeForty
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And also, how close is Microsoft to abandoning the console market and just focusing on PC?
I want them to stay away from PC. They are scaring the shtt out of ppl.
Games for Windows 2.0 is scary
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:18 pm to FourThreeForty
The generation status of the Switch is irrelevant, IMHO.
I look at Nintendo as standing off in the corner somewhere because they aren’t directly competing with Sony and Microsoft and haven’t really been since at least the Wii, if not the GameCube.
I look at Nintendo as standing off in the corner somewhere because they aren’t directly competing with Sony and Microsoft and haven’t really been since at least the Wii, if not the GameCube.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:31 pm to FourThreeForty
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And also, how close is Microsoft to abandoning the console market and just focusing on PC? Does anyone think that’s where Microsoft is headed?
There have been rumors for years that they might be interested in selling Xbox. Amazon would be the most likely buyer. I don't see it happening though.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:36 pm to FourThreeForty
I think they're actually in a unique situation because of the dock. They could easily sell a beefed up version of the dock in a couple years to improve performance.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:40 pm to FourThreeForty
We're due for a big shift in the market, as all three are doing radically different things:
1. Sony is shoring up core gamers, buying lots of exclusive rights to big games, producing high quality high value games. It seems they are going to stay on the home media console path.
2. Microsoft is spending it's time merging the game experience. When streaming technology is solidified, I could see some sort of lower priced boxes that could stream games from your computer directly to the screens in your home. No hard media, just connecting your tv to your Microsoft interface. Sony would never get to this point.
3. Nintendo is focusing on venue, playing anytime anywhere. If they don't do it with the Switch, I'd see the next console taking the Switch further with upgradable or optional docks. And hopefully pressing more into AAA 3rd party openness.
Dedicated Home VG Console. Or Game Ecosystem in your home. Or Games Anywhere.
1. Sony is shoring up core gamers, buying lots of exclusive rights to big games, producing high quality high value games. It seems they are going to stay on the home media console path.
2. Microsoft is spending it's time merging the game experience. When streaming technology is solidified, I could see some sort of lower priced boxes that could stream games from your computer directly to the screens in your home. No hard media, just connecting your tv to your Microsoft interface. Sony would never get to this point.
3. Nintendo is focusing on venue, playing anytime anywhere. If they don't do it with the Switch, I'd see the next console taking the Switch further with upgradable or optional docks. And hopefully pressing more into AAA 3rd party openness.
Dedicated Home VG Console. Or Game Ecosystem in your home. Or Games Anywhere.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:56 pm to FourThreeForty
The Switch is just a revamped Wii-U.
Whatever they're doing with the cardboard box peripheral is odd to say the least.
As far as MS is concerned, who knows? They've made some missteps, but their Backwards Compatability approach has been refreshing. We'll see what E3 holds for them in the console space.
I have all three, play on two. The Switch is just a space eater at the moment.
Whatever they're doing with the cardboard box peripheral is odd to say the least.
As far as MS is concerned, who knows? They've made some missteps, but their Backwards Compatability approach has been refreshing. We'll see what E3 holds for them in the console space.
I have all three, play on two. The Switch is just a space eater at the moment.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:54 pm to FourThreeForty
I agree with all three taking different approaches. I think the switch is out there on its own and doesn't really fall under any generation. I do believe Microsoft will eventually attempt to merge PC/Xbox even if that just means a future generation of Xbox just runs windows. I think that's a couple generations out though. I've been a Sony guy for a while now but I think they'll eventually get left out if that happens unless they decide to start allowing cross platform play.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:56 pm to teke184
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The generation status of the Switch is irrelevant, IMHO.
I feel like what you and Freauxzen said are probably the most true. The line between generations has blurred and the companies are all going towards their own goals. Makes you wonder just what the competition will look like in the future if they're all that separate in the future.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:23 pm to FourThreeForty
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I feel like what you and Freauxzen said are probably the most true. The line between generations has blurred and the companies are all going towards their own goals. Makes you wonder just what the competition will look like in the future if they're all that separate in the future.
It's going to take 1) Tech plateauing or 2) Tech advanced being absorbed quickly and easily into a variety of systems. I think we're due for a big change in software toolsets to facilitate a different approach to the engines and game scalability.
What if you could code a game that upscale AND downscale super easily? What if companies have been chasing this for the mobile space?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:15 pm to VaeVictus
I agree, I’m almost about to say frick the Switch and sell it to pay off my AR15 I have on layaway
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 pm to Freauxzen
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When streaming technology is solidified, I could see some sort of lower priced boxes that could stream games from your computer directly to the screens in your home. No hard media, just connecting your tv to your Microsoft interface. Sony would never get to this point.
Sony already has this. Don't think many people bought in though. It is supported on all PlayStation consoles, the now dead PS TV, and some Sony tvs. It's called PlayStation Now
Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying. Do you mean like Steam Big picture?
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:59 pm to UltimaParadox
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Do you mean like Steam Big picture?
Yup. Just don't think Steam has the overall power of MS to really make it a part of an ecosystem like MS does. Especially with the Spotify purchase.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:24 am to Freauxzen
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Dedicated Home VG Console. Or Game Ecosystem in your home. Or Games Anywhere.
I think this is pretty spot on.
Sony is going to keep polishing the console market and they do a great job there.
Nintendo has great exclusives and yes play them anywhere.
Microsoft has the largest coffers and really seem to be throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks to get to a next level. Their Azure back-end is legit in power and scale. There have been a few years lately Microsoft was the largest buyer of servers in the world, outspending Amazon and Google.
Some of their Xbox One launch ideas were going to be great, but mentally controlled gamers won out.
The IllumniRoom was going to be sweet, but cost were prohibited. I am interested to see where they take Hololens next and augmented reality. VR vs. AR will be a fun battle in a way. I tried out the Hololens and it is really legit, but they need to advance the field of view. I would love to dive into Halo in an AR world.
If I had to pick one company to come up with and/or fund the development of the Oasis, it would be Microsoft
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:27 am to DarthRebel
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Microsoft has the largest coffers and really seem to be throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks to get to a next level. Their Azure back-end is legit in power and scale. There have been a few years lately Microsoft was the largest buyer of servers in the world, outspending Amazon and Google.
Some of their Xbox One launch ideas were going to be great, but mentally controlled gamers won out.
The IllumniRoom was going to be sweet, but cost were prohibited. I am interested to see where they take Hololens next and augmented reality. VR vs. AR will be a fun battle in a way. I tried out the Hololens and it is really legit, but they need to advance the field of view. I would love to dive into Halo in an AR world.
If I had to pick one company to come up with and/or fund the development of the Oasis, it would be Microsoft
Yup. I don't think their experimentation in that space has gone anywhere and, I think, it's where they can blow everyone away. It still may be 10-15 years out, but video walls and AR within the home, Microsoft is well positioned to take advantage of that more than anyone else.
And I think it's probably the most exciting of the three.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:32 am to BulldogXero
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Screwed, that's what Nintendo will be.
explain
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:39 am to VaeVictus
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The Switch is just a revamped Wii-U.
I don't see that at all. I'd say it's more like a beefed up DS. There were very few, if any, games you could play standalone on the WiiU screen controller without a television. You can play every single game on the Switch without it being docked. This can't be emphasized enough. I play the console more standalone than I do docked, and the experience isn't significantly "worse" when in standalone.
It's totally portable and standalone, which was never the case with the WiiU.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:50 am to BulldogXero
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Screwed, that's what Nintendo will be.
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First, there’s the system itself. Switch has now sold 17.79 million units, which is four million more than the Wii U (13.56m) has sold in its lifetime. For context, Nintendo had forecast 15 million and analysts had estimated 16 million. Reality was closer to 18 million.
Super Mario Odyssey is the best-selling Switch game at 10.41 million copies, which means that 58% of Switches have a plumber with them. (Worth noting: Many of these sales likely came with the bundle.)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has sold 9.22 million copies, outselling the Wii U’s Mario Kart 8, which is at 8.42 million. Mario Kart 8 came out in May of 2014, while Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has now been out for less than a year.
Breath of the Wild is now the best-selling Zelda game of all time, with 8.48 million copies sold on Switch and more than a million on Wii U. The previous best-selling Zelda was Twilight Princess, which launched simultaneously on Wii and GameCube in 2006.
Kotaku editor-in-chief Stephen Totilo was extremely excited in January when Nintendo announced that Splatoon and Splatoon 2 had sold the same number of copies, 4.91 million. But Splatoon 2 has skyrocketed since then, now hitting 6.02 million copies on the Switch.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:57 am to FourThreeForty
quote:what in the actual frick? If anything, it's early last gen...
really early next generation
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