re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Thread *SPOILERS PG. 8 and Beyond*

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The Spirits Within bankrupted Square. Enix bought them in 2002.

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And? I think we all know that.

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The main issue people have is the time travel aspect and I love it,

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there are wayyyy more issues than that

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This game is like no other she you aren't going to get anything close to it the 2020 state of video games

Kudos to square for taking a huge risk on a sure thing, that took balls

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This game succeeds in nearly all of the non-gameplay aspects and fails at almost all of the gameplay ones

Positives
Art design - Outstanding
Models and voice acting - Phenomenal
Localization - On point
Music - Fantastic

Negatives
Length - Twice as long as it should've been

Pacing - Trash

Level design - Trash. Too much repetition, too much backtracking, and too many dated mechanics. Robot arms, train cars, hold square to shoot through this debris 20 times

Quest design - Trash. the sidequests are like something you'd find in an MMO. "Go find 5 kittens around town." "Go find 5 kids around town." "Go find these chocobos to open a fast travel system that you will probably use for an hour lol" This is 2020, gotta do better than that.

Exploration? Unrewarding. Town chapters weren't very engaging, and it was super depressing to find well-hidden chests at endgame only for them to give you shite like Hi-potions and an ether

Technical quality/Optimization - Trash

Writing - Lol dont get me started. Fake-out deaths, Kingdom Hearts bullshite, the works. The characters go from "we need to to find another away across this 3ft gap in the sewer" to jumping around on flying debris, Cloud slicing through buildings, Tifa kicking through chunks of the interstate, all kinds of anime bullshite.

As fun as the combat system was early on, it really started to show its arse towards the end. If you walk into a boss with the wrong materia junctioned to Elemental (i.e. something the boss resists or absorbs), you have to either reload your checkpoint and redo materia, or subject yourself to a miserably long fight.





Even with all that, the positives still made me give it a 3/5. I just can't help but be depressed abut what a missed opportunity this was. I was saying GOTY, can't wait to get the Platinum, all kinds of shite earlier in this thread LOL. I'm not gonna bother though, game just isn't good enough or fun enough to deserve my time. I replayed a few chapters on Hard and immediately got sick of the forced walking, squeezing through gaps, constantly skipping cutscenes, etc. The game design just doesn't lend itself to fun or productive replays. When I looked through Chapter Select, there were really only 4-5 chapters I was actually excited to play again.

This game should've been a tight, focused 15-20hr experience with meaningful side content and deeper exploration of Midgar. Instead of an experience thats a mile wide and an inch deep, give us something a littler smaller in scope with deeper exploration and engagement. Give me more stuff like the Sector 7 Shinra Housing area, Wall Market, Shinra HQ with the tour and that awesome virtual theater, etc. These smaller moments are where this game really shined for me.

Seems like a lot of people on Reddit and Gamefaqs had the same experience as me, where they think its the best game ever early on, and then "I can't wait for it to end" soon after. I can't believe I wrote this much, just shows how disappointed I am. Total missed opportunity.

Mystery was right.

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I appreciate your write up and opinion

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I'm just glad I don't over think things and can just enjoy them for why they are, which let me enjoy things that most ppl tend to tear apart because they think they know better than the actual devs/writers.

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and yeah, I'm sure your ability to enjoy it is because of those things and not because you're the biggest FF homer on the internet

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But it's the best thing square has put out in a while

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Square's best effort on their "best" title and all they can do is produce a mediocre, dated game. Sad. The reviews are higher than they should be because this is probably the most nostalgia-inducing property of all time.

I'm anxious to see what the others in here say once they finish it.

I disagree totally.

They took a huge gamble by doing this and could have royally fricked it up and tarnished the series entirely.

They took an huge risk and it paid off, I get it, you don't like Nomura. I just happen to think he's the MVP of Square

It's fine

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Let me ask this. Will my opinion be influenced from never having played the original? I’ll probably wrap it up this week.

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Don't think so. Even if I had never played the original, I still would've laughed at the sophomoric writing of the last 2 chapters

I do suggest playing the original though, it's amazing. I didn't play it until my 20s and still thought it aged really well. You can get it for like $10 on PSN

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I do suggest playing the original though, it's amazing. I didn't play it until my 20s and still thought it aged really well. You can get it for like $10 on PSN

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If somebody wants to play the original. I would recommend to mod it. Reunion will fix the bad localization and some of the bad bugs like spirit. The localization was really really bad for 7 even for 90s game standards.

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-The NPC chit chat needs to be toned down a bit.

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I turned subtitles off completely. Way less distracting.

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-I havent really spotted many spots to grind yet. Maybe I have just missed or havent gone back to certain places but id like a little spot to grind. Mostly for materia purposes. (Any recommendations?)

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Not sure. You could always grind the arena over and over, if getting Bahamut is a goal of yours. Otherwise later in the game you get a double AP materia and you get double AP in new game plus.

awesome tifa artwork from reddit. amazes me what artistic people can do, im so jealous lol

It's really not necessary to grind at all

Just finished with the Honeybee inn.

Amazing.

Fabulous.

That was unexpectedly fun.