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re: Don’t buy SW: Battlefront 2

Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:34 am to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:34 am to
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Maybe you shouldn't base the amount of fun you have on being able to get every single item


In a game I paid $60 for? Damn right I should be able to get every single item.

You're becoming complacent with the bullshite EA is trying to do. They've changed the whole model of games and you just accept it.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:09 am to
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ou're becoming complacent with the bullshite EA is trying to do.
A lot of people are. It's really sad. frick EA and frick people that defend this shite. I've never been a Star Wars fan and this debacle hasn't effected me in the slightest but just seeing what's going on is so insane even I'm baffled and I don't even want/never wanted the game.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 6:12 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:31 am to
One of the reasons I rarely buy new video games now. I figure I'll pop in my PS2 version of SW battlefront and play that for a few days.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:34 am to
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How many games come with every feature available when you open the game?


Literally thousands

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Has always been that way.


Patently false. What features in the original Legend of Zelda were not available the first time you boot the game up?
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:46 am to
For the Nes? Hmm. That's a pretty good one but that game came out how long ago? Basically since 2000 stuff has started to be out behind unlock walls
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:50 am to
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That's a pretty good one but that game came out how long ago?


you said always

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Basically since 2000 stuff has started to be out behind unlock walls


Also not true. I mentioned I was going to play SW Battle front for PS2. It came out post 2000 and there nothing you have to pay for in there. I can't think of many if any games i have on ps2 or even ps3 that have this and for the ones that do it's not anywhere NEAR what it is for a game like this. It's all ancillary stuff that doesn't really impact the core experience. It's stuff like the 49ers throwback uniforms for Madden and stuff like that.

You are completely out of your depth.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 7:55 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:51 am to
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In a game I paid $60 for? Damn right I should be able to get every single item.

I'm not going back and reading everything in this thread, but what is your response to those who mention that games have been $60 for a long time, and $60 in 2017 isn't cutting it anymore?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:56 am to
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I'm not going back and reading everything in this thread, but what is your response to those who mention that games have been $60 for a long time, and $60 in 2017 isn't cutting it anymore?


Then just charge $80 for the game and be done with it. Making it a huge chore to unlock basic characters + making it easy for mouthbreathers to superpower their guys via Mom's credit card just kills the whole experience.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:10 am to
Do away with all progression?
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:13 am to
Its not a huge chore. Its literally 10 hours or less for all the characters. If you want to bitch about the boxes go ahead. Thats basically the only thing to have an arguement about and the reason for the boxes is so they dont have to charge for a Season Pass and can give out the 4 or so DLCs for free. If my options were Lootboxes are in the game but free season pass or 40$ season pass. Give me the lootboxes. Im not going to run into enough whales that the boxes are going to cause me that much shite.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 8:21 am
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:53 am to
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There is a grand total of 324 cards. Upgrading these will require a total of 155,520 crafting parts. This requires opening a grand total of 3,111 loot crates which will require 4,528 hours of gameplay.


And Im out. I wouldn't really care to unlock all of the cards and upgrade them to full but to require 4528 hrs for somebody who does is too much. Make it require an 8th of that. Or Less. I should be done unlocking everything in the game by hour number 200. And just putting there because everybody is going to go find it anyways it works out to around 2100$ if you want to use transactions to get there a bit faster
Posted by The Quiet One
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:55 am to
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I'm not going back and reading everything in this thread, but what is your response to those who mention that games have been $60 for a long time, and $60 in 2017 isn't cutting it anymore?


I say the cost to produce a game is offset by supply and demand. The more people buy your product, the cheaper the cost per unit. Plus, I see Nintendo pumping out their Big Three (Zelda, Mario, Pokemon) without packing them full of fees like they’re a cell phone company.

Let’s not act like EA and Activision would be in the poors without gambling boxes and micro transactions. DLCs and Season Passes along with the sale of the game itself brings in piles and piles of cash. Activision literally shits in a box, writes ‘Call of Doody’ on it, and is almost guaranteed to be in the top 50 of all-time game sales. Look it up. You think those annual games cost that much to churn out?

How much fricking money do they need?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:06 am to
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I'm not going back and reading everything in this thread, but what is your response to those who mention that games have been $60 for a long time, and $60 in 2017 isn't cutting it anymore?

Higher demand today with DLC. They aren't creating this engine from scratch . They aren't plotting out a whole 100hr story.

This is BS for a game that is basically just multiplayer. Yes, server cost. But they can get that with monthly NON-REQUIRED cosmetic items. Hats hats hats! =)
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:06 am to
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Let’s not act like EA and Activision would be in the poors without gambling boxes and micro transactions. DLCs and Season Passes along with the sale of the game itself brings in piles and piles of cash. Activision literally shits in a box, writes ‘Call of Doody’ on it, and is almost guaranteed to be in the top 50 of all-time game sales. Look it up. You think those annual games cost that much to churn out?



You are quite literally talking out of your arse here.

Games cost a lot of money and a lot of time to make, and there's no guarantee on the return. That's why it's rare when you see a developer take a risk on new IP or ideas because developing that takes even longer, and if your game tanks, that could mean the end of your studio.

Big studios are big studios for a reason: they don't take a lot or risks and do what they can to bring in the biggest return.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:12 am to
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If my options were Lootboxes are in the game but free season pass or 40$ season pass. Give me the lootboxes. Im not going to run into enough whales that the boxes are going to cause me that much shite.


I agree but that is because I dont really take Battlefront multiplayer gaming that seriously. I just like playing in the Star Wars playground. That being said I dont like the trend towards loot boxes giving players unfair advantage and I understand those pissed about it.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:18 am to
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How much fricking money do they need?


You voted for Bernie, didn't you
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:23 am to
You getting the game? Considering getting it when I get back from knoxville
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:25 am to
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Big studios are big studios for a reason: they don't take a lot or risks and do what they can to bring in the biggest return.

They took a real big risk on I and II, right?

Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:42 am to
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You getting the game? Considering getting it when I get back from knoxville


Apparently these don't have a long shelf life on PC, so I think I am just going to sit this one out.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19158 posts
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:49 am to
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Apparently these don't have a long shelf life on PC, so I think I am just going to sit this one out.


Shame. Game looks fun watching some streams. I guess it's like COD series on PC. Outside of BF3/BF4 most of these big publisher shooter releases don't last long in the PC community
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 9:49 am
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