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re: Blizzard removes a player from Hearthstone tourney over HK comments
Posted on 10/11/19 at 8:31 pm to Kodar
Posted on 10/11/19 at 8:31 pm to Kodar
LINK Blizzard Twitter
TL;DR: Blitzchung gets his prize money, ban reduced to six months. The casters still get fricked with a ban, but it too has been reduced to six months.
Blizzard says that the Pro Hong Kong message was not a factor in their decision, and that China had "no influence" in the decision.
quote:
Hello Blizzard Community . . .
I want to take a few minutes to talk to all of you about the Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament this past weekend. On Monday, we made the decision to take action against a player named blitzchung and two shoutcasters after the player shared his views on what’s happening in Hong Kong on our official broadcast channel.
At Blizzard, our vision is “to bring the world together through epic entertainment.” And we have core values that apply here: Think Globally; Lead Responsibly; and importantly, Every Voice Matters, encouraging everybody to share their point of view. The actions that we took over the weekend are causing people to question if we are still committed to these values. We absolutely are and I will explain.
Our esports programs are an expression of our vision and our values. Esports exist to create opportunities for players from around the world, from different cultures, and from different backgrounds, to come together to compete and share their passion for gaming. It is extremely important to us to protect these channels and the purpose they serve: to bring the world together through epic entertainment, celebrate our players, and build diverse and inclusive communities.
As to how those values apply in this case:
First, our official esports tournament broadcast was used as a platform for a winner of this event to share his views with the world.
We interview competitors who are at the top of their craft to share how they feel. We want to experience that moment with them. Hearing their excitement is a powerful way to bring us together.
Over the weekend, blitzchung used his segment to make a statement about the situation in Hong Kong—in violation of rules he acknowledged and understood, and this is why we took action.
Every Voice Matters, and we strongly encourage everyone in our community to share their viewpoints in the many places available to express themselves. However, the official broadcast needs to be about the tournament and to be a place where all are welcome. In support of that, we want to keep the official channels focused on the game.
Second, what is the role of shoutcasters for these broadcasts? We hire shoutcasters to amplify the excitement of the game. They elevate the watchability and help the esports viewing experience stay focused on the tournament and our amazing players.
Third, were our actions based on the content of the message?
Part of Thinking Globally, Leading Responsibly, and Every Voice Matters is recognizing that we have players and fans in almost every country in the world. Our goal is to help players connect in areas of commonality, like their passion for our games, and create a sense of shared community.
The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision.
We have these rules to keep the focus on the game and on the tournament to the benefit of a global audience, and that was the only consideration in the actions we took.
If this had been the opposing viewpoint delivered in the same divisive and deliberate way, we would have felt and acted the same.
OK, what could Blizzard have done better, and where do we go from here?
Over the past few days, many players, casters, esports fans, and employees have expressed concerns about how we determined the penalties. We’ve had a chance to pause, to listen to our community, and to reflect on what we could have done better. In hindsight, our process wasn’t adequate, and we reacted too quickly.
We want to ensure that we maintain a safe and inclusive environment for all our players, and that our rules and processes are clear. All of this is in service of another important Blizzard value—Play Nice; Play Fair.
In the tournament itself blitzchung *played* fair. We now believe he should receive his prizing. We understand that for some this is not about the prize, and perhaps for others it is disrespectful to even discuss it. That is not our intention.
But playing fair also includes appropriate pre-and post-match conduct, especially when a player accepts recognition for winning in a broadcast. When we think about the suspension, six months for blitzchung is more appropriate, after which time he can compete in the Hearthstone pro circuit again if he so chooses. There is a consequence for taking the conversation away from the purpose of the event and disrupting or derailing the broadcast.
With regard to the casters, remember their purpose is to keep the event focused on the tournament. That didn’t happen here, and we are setting their suspension to six months as well.
Moving forward, we will continue to apply tournament rules to ensure our official broadcasts remain focused on the game and are not a platform for divisive social or political views.
One of our goals at Blizzard is to make sure that every player, everywhere in the world, regardless of political views, religious beliefs, race, gender, or any other consideration always feels safe and welcome both competing in and playing our games.
At Blizzard, we are always listening and finding ways to improve—it is part of our culture. Thank you for your patience with us as we continue to learn.
Sincerely,
J. Allen Brack
President of Blizzard Entertainment
TL;DR: Blitzchung gets his prize money, ban reduced to six months. The casters still get fricked with a ban, but it too has been reduced to six months.
Blizzard says that the Pro Hong Kong message was not a factor in their decision, and that China had "no influence" in the decision.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 10/11/19 at 8:37 pm to SonicAndBareKnuckles
quote:
Blizzard says that the Pro Hong Kong message was not a factor in their decision, and that China had "no influence" in the decision.



frick blizzard for taking all this time just to lie to us.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 8:41 pm to SonicAndBareKnuckles
Blizzard president - That isn’t urine running down your leg, it is a tropical storm.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 8:56 pm to Drewbie
Fun Fact: Blizzard's stock price has halved since J. Allen Brack took over.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:37 pm to SonicAndBareKnuckles
I call gigantic obvious bullshite on his statement for 3 huge reasons:
It had nothing to do with China huh?
1. Remember that Blizzard has been retroactively censoring Heathstone cards to pass Chinese censorship standards. Just 2-3 months ago they did a batch of censorship changes that changed the names and artwork of cards that have been in the game for YEARS already. Blizzard has proven themselves in the past few years to be very aware of the Chinese government in regards to their business, particular in Hearthstone.
2. It took an entire week for you to put out a statement late in the day on a Friday? For those of you not in the know, organizations tend to put out comments/statements for stuff they'd rather not late Friday's because that's the optimal time for people to not be paying attention.
3. They claim the message itself wasn't a problem, just that they don't want their casts to be used for "divisive" politics. Oh really? So if an LGBT Heathstone player had won a tournament and said something like "It's time the world unites once and for all for equal rights for gays" we are to believe Blizzard would have punished them? If someone said "I just wanted to take a minute to say the world has finally got to start taking Climate Change seriously" we are to believe Blizzard suspends them a year? If a black player were to end an interview with "Black Lives Matter!" they really expect us to believe that they would have punished them?
HORSE shite. Blizzard would have been perfectly fine with politics being interjected if the politics were their favored SJW pet politics.
It had nothing to do with China huh?
1. Remember that Blizzard has been retroactively censoring Heathstone cards to pass Chinese censorship standards. Just 2-3 months ago they did a batch of censorship changes that changed the names and artwork of cards that have been in the game for YEARS already. Blizzard has proven themselves in the past few years to be very aware of the Chinese government in regards to their business, particular in Hearthstone.
2. It took an entire week for you to put out a statement late in the day on a Friday? For those of you not in the know, organizations tend to put out comments/statements for stuff they'd rather not late Friday's because that's the optimal time for people to not be paying attention.
3. They claim the message itself wasn't a problem, just that they don't want their casts to be used for "divisive" politics. Oh really? So if an LGBT Heathstone player had won a tournament and said something like "It's time the world unites once and for all for equal rights for gays" we are to believe Blizzard would have punished them? If someone said "I just wanted to take a minute to say the world has finally got to start taking Climate Change seriously" we are to believe Blizzard suspends them a year? If a black player were to end an interview with "Black Lives Matter!" they really expect us to believe that they would have punished them?
HORSE shite. Blizzard would have been perfectly fine with politics being interjected if the politics were their favored SJW pet politics.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:41 pm to Drewbie
quote:
Fun Fact: Blizzard's stock price has halved since J. Allen Brack took over.
He's a goon but it's obviously not 100% his fault. He got prompted Captain of a ship that was already wrecked.
Old Blizzard is complety, 100% dead. Pretty much every single major party who built the company has departed. All 3-4 founders, gone. All the people who directly created the original games and their sequels (WarCraft, StarCraft, Diablo, WoW) all gone.
It's a shell of it's former self, it's now just a brand name, a soulless coroprate husk.
New Blizzard is to Gaming what New Disney Star Wars is to movies.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:25 pm to PEPE
Shamelessly stolen from discussion on somethingawful, but I thought some of this was neat.
Twitter thread of someone detailing that the press release seems like it was written by a chinese speaker, despite having Brack's name on it
quote:
That's exactly the type of statement that China wants to see -- deny China was responsible while instilling fear against future offenses.
quote:
God damn, you’re right. Part of the reason this apology doesn’t make Blizzard look better in the slightest is because its primary intended result was not to absolve Blizzard, but to absolve China.
Twitter thread of someone detailing that the press release seems like it was written by a chinese speaker, despite having Brack's name on it
Posted on 10/12/19 at 3:08 pm to THRILLHO
RIOT games, head of League of legends esports licking his commie owners boots
They want to make sure gamers know, they serve the $ masters, so please keep your mouth shut about politics, unless it is promoting China and the great Chinese regime.
People need to remember, spending any money on Riot games is money in Chicoms pockets.
They want to make sure gamers know, they serve the $ masters, so please keep your mouth shut about politics, unless it is promoting China and the great Chinese regime.
People need to remember, spending any money on Riot games is money in Chicoms pockets.
This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/12/19 at 3:41 pm to Eternalmajin
I used to believe China was smart and thought about things in terms of centuries instead of decades. These recent events are making me rethink that belief.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 11:21 am
Posted on 10/13/19 at 3:52 am to SeeeeK
I already put rito on notice. They get no quarter if they go this route.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:10 am to Raz
The bed shitting by Lebron has brought a lot of attention to the NBA, although Blizzard isn't out of hot water by any stretch.
The official statement by Blizzard, as posted and discussed above, has pretty much been concluded to be little more than a statement heavily filtered or sent by the Chinese government. Blitzchung made a statement, and it was odd. Sounded like talking points that were forced on him. It is worth noting that Blitzchung, as far as I know, is in HK as of now so his safety is in question.
Blizzard has also canceled an upcoming event with Nintendo regarding Overwatch on the switch all of a sudden:
Obviously it is suspected to be a result of all the recent backlash.
Blitzchung's full statement (Translated, so don't fret over grammatical errors and the like):
The official statement by Blizzard, as posted and discussed above, has pretty much been concluded to be little more than a statement heavily filtered or sent by the Chinese government. Blitzchung made a statement, and it was odd. Sounded like talking points that were forced on him. It is worth noting that Blitzchung, as far as I know, is in HK as of now so his safety is in question.
Blizzard has also canceled an upcoming event with Nintendo regarding Overwatch on the switch all of a sudden:

Obviously it is suspected to be a result of all the recent backlash.
Blitzchung's full statement (Translated, so don't fret over grammatical errors and the like):
quote:
Thank you for your attention in the past one week, this is a personal statement and my view on Blizzard's latest decision. First of all, I'm grateful for Blizzard reconsidering their position about my ban. Earlier this week, I told media that I knew I might have penalty or consequence for my act, because I understand that my act could take the conversation away from the purpose of the event. In the future, I will be more careful on that and express my opinions or show my support to Hong Kong on my personal platforms.
Many people has been asking me if I accept the latest decision of Blizzard, I will discuss that on two parts. Tournament prizing and suspension. For tournament prizing, I quoted what Blizzard said on the official website, they mention that I played fair in the tournament and they believe I should receive my prizing. This is the part I really appreciate, Blizzard also said they understand for some this is not about the prize, but perhaps for others it is disrespectful to even discuss it. People from Blizzard had explained this to me through a phone call and I really appreciate that and I accept their decision on this part.
For second part about the suspension, Blizzard had changed their suspension on me from a year to six months. Once again, I appreciate for their reconsideration on this. To be honest, I think six months is still quite a lot to me. But I also being told that I can continue to compete in the hearthstone pro circuit which they mean the grandmaster tournament. I appreciate for this decision they made because grandmaster is currently the highest level tournament in competitive hearthstone. However, I wish Blizzard can reconsider about their penalty on the two casters involved.
Lastly, many people wants to know if i would be competing in hearthstone in the future. Honestly, I have no idea on that yet. Since my next tournament is very likely to be the grandmaster tournament of next season, it's probably at least a few months from now on. I will take this time to relax myself to decide if I am staying in competitive hearthstone scene or not.
Hearthstone changed my the way I live, I really love this community. Blessing to all the players out there, and blessing to Blizzard.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:27 pm to Kodar
The release of DM didn't help their twitch numbers, in fact when assmogod isn't on they seem to be going down.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 8:43 pm to DoUrden
DM alone won't do anything. That's just another raid the majority of the playerbase still can't even do. The next boost won't happen until Phase 2 launches.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 9:08 pm to Drewbie
Pre frick up 100 subs
outrage 50 subs
New content relesed 40 subs
Phase 2 65 subs, yea Blizz won.

outrage 50 subs
New content relesed 40 subs
Phase 2 65 subs, yea Blizz won.

Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:35 pm to DoUrden
Blizzard cancelled another event today, this one was a WoW anniversary event in Taiwan. They really are committed to their current strategy of just shutting everything possible down and hoping this goes away. Hope BlizzCon is a gigantic shite storm.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:45 pm to PEPE
quote:Oh, it will be.
Hope BlizzCon is a gigantic shite storm.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:55 pm to PEPE
quote:
Hope BlizzCon is a gigantic shite storm.

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