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re: Zee Zee Gardens saying adios?
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:18 am to LouisianaLady
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:18 am to LouisianaLady
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People aren't saying its going to fail and that seems to be what you're arguing against.
i'm not saying it will or won't fail. i'm saying if it doesn't fail, that's a good thing and should be celebrated. i think most people assume it won't fail and that IS what they don't want
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If anything, they're complaining that their beloved neighborhood bar area will be ruined.
it's only one bar of a handful in that area. if they continue to support the other bars, the area won't be ruined
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:22 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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You think it was pure capitalism is what is causing Zee Zee's to close. Nothing could be further from the truth.
was government used to close down zee zees? if not, then i don't see how your point is true
even if it's a lease issue, which i already referenced as a possibility, that's still capitalism. if the lease was broken against the terms of the lease, the former owner of zee zees can sue to recover damages. that's part of capitalism. contracts and protection of ocntracts are foundational to capitalism
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What I don't like is when the free market doesn't prevail.
was government used? if so then i agree and that is terrible and i do not support it
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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was government used to close down zee zees?
No
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if not, then i don't see how your point is true
Because you are ignorant about the details.
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if it's a lease issue,
Partly true, but that only scratches the surface. There is a hell of a lot more to the story.
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if
Your use of "if" means you are ignorant to the details and really just throwing around concepts that suit your point of view.
So I will say again, you are trying to use a round peg for a square hole.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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What I don't like is when the free market doesn't prevail
Free market will certainly pervail. Zee Zee's is free to look for another space.. Downtown might be a good move.. New digs, a fresh start.. Zee Zee's always had a lawyerly crowd so why not Downtown? I hope they do open up somewhere else and kick major butt.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 10:45 am
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:48 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Partly true, but that only scratches the surface. There is a hell of a lot more to the story.
if there is a contract that was broken, he has recourse through the courts. he can sue for damages
there is nothing immoral about breaking a contract, as long as government doesn't prevent recovery of damages
let's assume there was a broken contract. the person who broke it is liable for damages...in this instance expected profits over the course fo the remainder of the lease. if that amount is less than the advantage gained by breaking the lease, then it's smart business
zee zees gets paid their damages, the owner moves to a more profitable venture, and people move on
that IS capitalism
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and really just throwing around concepts that suit your point of view.
they're objective comments that apply in any situation. they apply here, regardless what follows the "if"
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
I heard place was loaded with termites! Ivars too. Heard that from reliable source! Better get Terminix in there!
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:59 am to bdevill
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I hope they do open up somewhere else and kick major butt.
me too. i hope they all are successful and continue to serve their markets and the owners benefit as a result
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Agree 100%.. It would be very interesting to see a new Zee Zee's open up.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Ignorance is truly bliss isn't it? Isn't it wonderful to live in a pretend world where you pontificate about economic theories all you want. That pretend world even allows you to cast judgements without knowing a single detail.
And honestly Slowpro, I am sorry that you have never experienced a place like that. I am sorry that you can only see black and white and don't see the shades of gray. I am sorry that you only carry around round pegs thinking they will fit in every hole you see. If they don't fit, then you think everything else is wrong other than your pegs.
Anyway, sorry to see it go. Not sure that its going to reopen because of the hassle of it. It was a great bar with outstanding customer service.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:40 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
I live in the area and I dont want to see a Happys either. I just hope they come in, Clean the place up, make it non smoking and add a patio or something. I wish they would keep the name ( because I like it) and that it will give competition to Ivars (BC $8 beers suck). I also think if Zee Zee's were to move, they should goto Govt/Mid City. JMO
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Happy's Irish Pub expected to replace Zee Zee Gardens Zee Zee Gardens, a well-known neighborhood watering hole near the Perkins Road overpass, will likely close its doors for good later this spring. Daily Report has learned a deal is in the works to sell the midcentury, cinder-block building to Last In Concepts Inc.'s Jack Warner and Brandon Landry, who are planning to convert the bar into a Happy's Irish Pub. Kevin Reilly Jr., who owns the building, is out of the country and could not be reached for comment, and Warner declines to discuss the deal until it is finalized. However, sources say Last In Concepts—which owns three other Happy's pubs in Baton Rouge and New Orleans, as well as Walk-On's Bistreaux & Bar and several other downtown establishments—tried unsuccessfully three years ago to buy Zee Zee's. The bar's longtime owner, Wilson Cox, did not return calls requesting comment, but social media sites have been abuzz this week with postings from Zee Zee regulars who are upset about the pending changes.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:46 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
what judgments am I making exactly?
what point am I ignorant of?
You are speaking in generalities without establishing what you are actually saying and due to that I have no idea what you are even saying. please enlighten me
what point am I ignorant of?
You are speaking in generalities without establishing what you are actually saying and due to that I have no idea what you are even saying. please enlighten me
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm sorry, how did a thread about fricking Zee Zee Gardens closing turn into the great debate about the free market and economic theory? Take that shite to the poliboard
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
You can smoke in happys dt
Which it better be
Which it better be
Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:21 pm to REG861
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I'm sorry, how did a thread about fricking Zee Zee Gardens closing turn into the great debate about the free market and economic theory? Take that shite to the poliboard
Exactly. He flipped the thread around to debate in a point that nobody was interested in discussing on the F&D board.
Like I said, they have an OT thread for that bullshite.
Nobody is impressed with his ability to discuss legal contracts and free market like he's enlightening people to a new school of thought. The thread was/isn't about that.
Just dumb.Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:23 pm to Jax007
quote:I bet this one will be smoking as well.
You can smoke in happys dt
I really would love to have seen a local chef been able to procure the spot and make it some sort of restaurant/deli/bar/whatever that serves food.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:34 pm to LSUAfro
Hijack:
How is WO's/Happy's doing in NOLA?
How is WO's/Happy's doing in NOLA?
Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:35 pm to Solo
Every time I've been by, they've had business, frequent lines out of the door and a full patio outside.
eta: I like the space and the location.
eta: I like the space and the location.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:37 pm to Jax007
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You can smoke in happys dt
Smoke what?
Weed??
Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:38 pm to Solo
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How is WO's/Happy's doing in NOLA?
Id also like to know this. I have only been for private parties and thought it was great.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 12:39 pm to Solo
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Hijack:
How is WO's/Happy's doing in NOLA?
Seem to be doing very well in both. I've stayed around the corner at Hyatt several times in the last few months and Friday-Sunday both have been very busy almost every time I've walked by.
Not sure how the Mon-Thurs crowd does, but just like the LSU location, they are killing it during football season.
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