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re: Wine: What are you drinking?

Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
Back in August. I didn't even know you were out there.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18918 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:33 pm to
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because it's finally drinking nicely
Can you explain this?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 5:54 pm to
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Miscommunication on the part of our market rep kept us on just the normal trade tour.

Oh no!!!!!!!! Well, I hope you enjoyed J! We just got our latest shipment yesterday. Time to let it sit while we drink the last shipment
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:03 pm to
Younger wines can have pretty harsh tannins, which are the astringent/bitter component of wine. A wine that is too young may have its flavors muted because of this. This wine was, and continues to be, released about a year too soon. The 2018 just came out and is experiencing the same as this one did last year.

Without going too far down the rabbit hole, tannins are also preservatives for wine. Over time they essentially "fall out" of the wine and become part of the sediment you find in older bottles. The resulting wine is much softer as a result.

Most of what Dave phinney makes are "berry bombs" so if you open one of his wines and don't get slapped across the face with a frick ton of black and red fruit, there's something wrong.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:07 pm to
Yeah, we'll be sure to specify several times next time we go.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:21 pm to
I’ve still got 3 bottles of 8 years that is getting close to drinking time
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35539 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:32 pm to
Heading up to Columbus for the game this weekend. A buddy was in Tuscany recently and I had him pick up a couple of cases for me. One is a Chianti Classico from 1995. Cant wait to open a bottle this weekend. It’s so freaking drinkable now.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:54 pm to
I've been working through a few bottles of chardonnay I picked up the last time I was in Hungary. the Pecs region has been very good to me.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:50 pm to
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Fitting because today is Beaujolais Nouveau Day. This year's isn't as fruity as last year, but it could still replace your cranberry sauce at Thanksgiving.



I don't drink Nouveau but I slam some cru

Is there a better old world QPR? I see it everywhere now which makes me think the days of getting elite beaujolais for 25-50 bucks are numbered
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:24 am to
Tasted a few Nouveau's last night. Really enjoyed the Kermit Lynch, but that is probably just internal bias.

On another note, really am liking the Acrobat Pinot Gris out of Oregon as an aperitif/quaffer.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18918 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:37 am to
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Younger wines can have pretty harsh tannins, which are the astringent/bitter component of wine. A wine that is too young may have its flavors muted because of this. This wine was, and continues to be, released about a year too soon. The 2018 just came out and is experiencing the same as this one did last year.

Without going too far down the rabbit hole, tannins are also preservatives for wine. Over time they essentially "fall out" of the wine and become part of the sediment you find in older bottles. The resulting wine is much softer as a result.

I follow. You did well.

So tell me more about tannins. From visiting vineyards and doing tastings, I've picked up that harsh or high tannins gives you that astringent and dry mouth feel.

With that said, how much do you hate it when people refer to a wine as "dry", and are smooth tannins a characteristic of all good reds?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79200 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:45 am to
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Tasted a few Nouveau's last night. Really enjoyed the Kermit Lynch, but that is probably just internal bias.



I would assume KL would be a good place to look for nouveau. I wish they shipped direct to GA.
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:51 am to
Im sure they have a distributor in GA. His bottles that he brings in are pretty much available nationwide, I've found.

I was tasting them in New Orleans, fyi.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79200 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:51 am to
They do, it's just hit or miss on what you can find easily.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
824 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:16 am to
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BOUCANER


Boucaner Wine

Great wine from the Hogs guys. Would be a perfect wine for Thanksgiving.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18918 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:21 am to
Whats the price range on Boucaner?
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:28 am to
$16.99 to $19.99
Posted by FleetFox504
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:57 am to
I’ve been hearing lots of good things about this wine. @BlackenedOut, what’s the story behind it and where can we get it?
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:10 am to
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So tell me more about tannins. From visiting vineyards and doing tastings, I've picked up that harsh or high tannins gives you that astringent and dry mouth feel.


Correct, and since they primarily come from the skins of grapes, they're really only a component of red wine, namely Cabernet Sauvignon, Syrah, etc.

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With that said, how much do you hate it when people refer to a wine as "dry",


Eh, if it's actually in line with the residual sugar level, it's fine.

If someone drinks something from say Orin Swift and calls it dry, I'll just laugh.

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and are smooth tannins a characteristic of all good reds?


It's really just depends on the grape variety and region it comes from. Romanée-Conti is some of the best wine you could ever put your hands on, but since it's Pinot noir, you really won't have noticable tannins because the skins are thin.

If you have a bottle of crozes hermitage, which is syrah, the tannins will be very astringent, but they're balanced by red fruit and produces a delicious wine.
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