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re: Why is tomato. based "gumbo" so prevalent outside of Louisiana? ??
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:01 pm to OTIS2
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:01 pm to OTIS2
You're in the wrong thread, Otis. Boss is in the other tomato thread. 
I rarely see gumbo with tomatoes or tomato product in it in Louisiana. I've seen it a bit in Nola, but that's about it. I don't think I've ever had a homemade gumbo from anyone I know with any type of tomatoes in it. I don't see it often.
I rarely see gumbo with tomatoes or tomato product in it in Louisiana. I've seen it a bit in Nola, but that's about it. I don't think I've ever had a homemade gumbo from anyone I know with any type of tomatoes in it. I don't see it often.
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:03 pm to bigberg2000
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What is considered tomato based? I have had great seafood gumbo with some tomato in it but it was still a dark brown roux with mostly an okra base
I have had some gumbos with tomatoes that were really good that had tomatoes and a dark roux though I prefer it without tomatoes.
What I am referring to does not contain a roux or maybe a peanut butter colored butter roux and the overall color of the gumbo is that of a tomato vegetable soup. The tomato and okra are the dominant flavor rather than the flavor of a dark roux.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:06 pm to mouton
I went to a WOW wingery once and saw they had a chicken and sausage gumbo on the menu. Knowing they were based out of Covington I asked if it had tomatoes or not. The server brought me a sample. It was a tomato soup with okra, chicken and sausage. 
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:31 pm to mouton
What did you expect? You ordered gumbo at a wing place
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:59 pm to iAmBatman
I did not order gumbo at a wing place. I asked about it and was given a sample. I expected it to be a roux based gumbo being that the restaurant is based out of La.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 3:05 pm to StripedSaint
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The only tomato "based" gumbo I have ever had in New Orleans is Liuzza's. I have had many with tomatoes in the gumbo, but they are still using okra and/or filé as the thickening agent.
Casamento's gumbo has tomatoes, but there goes another Italian stirring the pot. Tomatoes in gumbo in/around NOLA is historically common--I gotta shelf fulla old NOLA cookbooks (pre-1950) containing gumbo recipes using tomatoes. If you move over to the Carolinas, gumbo is often more like our LA smothered okra & tomatoes.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 3:08 pm to hungryone
My PawPaw from Chauvin would put a can of rotel in his shrimp and okra gumbo...... I didn't get mad at him I just ate it.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 3:27 pm to mouton
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Why is tomato. based "gumbo" so prevalent outside of Louisiana? ??
Because they dont know what the frick they are talking about.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 3:36 pm to Errerrerrwere
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What makes someone a Creole? I thought, was having a blood line of either French or Spanish ancestry from Europe.
That's correct. In antebellum days, it was associated with French and Spanish plantations and if something or someone came from a plantation (whether it be tomatoes or the offspring of a plantation owner and slave) the fact that it came from a plantation made its quality inherently better and was defined by the term, "Creole".
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:49 pm to bdevill
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the offspring of a plantation owner and slave)
I understand criollo or creole, as having full blood from the motherland, but being born in situ (in this case, Louisiana).
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:03 pm to mouton
The guy who taught me how to make gumbo was a Cajun who was as comfortable speaking French as he was speaking English. He was raised on a crook in the bayou in South Louisiana and hunted and fished for most of what he ate.
He put tomatoes in his gumbo, so I guess he was actually from New Jersey and I was totally fooled.
I like it both ways. Sadly, I have had more burned brown roux served to me as "good" gumbo than I have had dark brown wit tomatoes served as gumbo I didn't care for.
This is maybe my favorite F&D fight (other than the classic chili fight).
Idiots - all of us.
He put tomatoes in his gumbo, so I guess he was actually from New Jersey and I was totally fooled.
I like it both ways. Sadly, I have had more burned brown roux served to me as "good" gumbo than I have had dark brown wit tomatoes served as gumbo I didn't care for.
This is maybe my favorite F&D fight (other than the classic chili fight).
Idiots - all of us.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:14 pm to MeridianDog
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He put tomatoes in his gumbo, so I guess he was actually from New Jersey and I was totally fooled.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:17 pm to MightyYat
I like it with or without
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:18 pm to Dandy Lion
I grew up south of New Orleans and never knew about tomatoes in gumbo until I started reading about it on this board. And then I noticed some restaurants in New Orleans served it. Most I have notice don't use tomatoes now that I eat out more here. You can also find some really good gumbos in restaurants here. Not sure why people outside of New Orleans think that.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:43 pm to JasonL79
If it's good it's good I don't care what's in it. Cochon puts black eye peas in the gumbo, I don't see anyone questioning Link's credibility.
I'm not sure I've ever had a gumbo that used tomatoes as the base.
I'm not sure I've ever had a gumbo that used tomatoes as the base.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:24 pm to TigerWise
I think many are missing what this thread is about. It is about a tomato based gumbo not a dark roux gumbo with tomatoes.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:27 pm to JasonL79
Same here.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:01 am to MeridianDog
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was a Cajun who was as comfortable speaking French as he was speaking English
He was probably Canadian and just pretending to be Cajun.
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This is maybe my favorite F&D fight
How can you pick just one?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:32 am to Tigertown in ATL
I think when Mitch Landrieu removes the confederate memorials they should erect a statue of the creole tomato that made creole cooking famous.
But they also need to stop calling it Cajun Gumbo when they add dat dad gum tomato.
Me, just let me slice my fresh garden tomato on da side.
But they also need to stop calling it Cajun Gumbo when they add dat dad gum tomato.
Me, just let me slice my fresh garden tomato on da side.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:41 am to mouton
Why get gumbo when out of state? Just get whatever their local specialty is. Eat gumbo here.
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